Randy Newberg on Matt Rinella's Podcast

[Gerald Martin]

Bad time for us to get that with goat tags in our pockets.

So our curse is actually a blessing? I can’t find donettes because of Randy but that keeps me from getting fat and hampering my goat hunt…
Thanks Randy Newberg!

 

[Ben Lamb]

So if I’m understanding things correctly the future of western hunting is just like Schlitz beer, “it’s not THAT bad”. Just think of how much worse it could be.
What a way to celebrate success.

Yes & no. What people are doing is showing you what the actual field of engagement looks like in terms of the game that we're playing. Come to the session in 23 and I'm sure you'd be amazed at just how friendly and warm that place is to resident hunters & DIY Non-residents. When organizations and individials have to spend all of their time fighting the bad proposals and don't have the opportunity to push solid, thoughtful changes forward, we give our politicians the excuse to manage wildlife for us. That's been the largest issue relative to season structure in Montana in the last 20 years.

There are organizations out there working to make things better. Randy is part of those efforts in multiple fronts. You can Ike Clanton this if you want, or you can saddle up and ride with the Earps.

Be a huckleberry. Ride with the Earps.

 

[noharleyyet]

Ben & Buzz...good cop bad cop. Gerald...chief of Po Po

Randy...City Mgr

 

[Stocker]

Yes & no. What people are doing is showing you what the actual field of engagement looks like in terms of the game that we're playing. Come to the session in 23 and I'm sure you'd be amazed at just how friendly and warm that place is to resident hunters & DIY Non-residents. When organizations and individials have to spend all of their time fighting the bad proposals and don't have the opportunity to push solid, thoughtful changes forward, we give our politicians the excuse to manage wildlife for us. That's been the largest issue relative to season structure in Montana in the last 20 years.

There are organizations out there working to make things better. Randy is part of those efforts in multiple fronts. You can Ike Clanton this if you want, or you can saddle up and ride with the Earps.

Be a huckleberry. Ride with the Earps.

 

[noharleyyet]

Ben Lamb can dress you down and you'll swear it was a compliment.

 

[longbow51]

"You don't get free First-Lite clothes from your brother?".....LOL!! That was the best quote from the conversation!

That was pretty funny, and I don't think he meant in in a mean-spirited way.

 

[Nate Mode]

Hunter numbers are on the decline and this infighting amongst hunters needs to stop. It’s doesn’t matter if you are resident or non resident, use social media or not. In 2021 there were 15 million license hunters that’s counting resident and nonresidents, so how many of those are counted multiple times? (I had a license in 6 states last year.) Each year the number of hunters is declining, that a proven fact and it seems like some of y’all would be happy if y’all would be happy if you were the last hunter on the mountain but if that happens there will be no hunting left.

So our curse is actually a blessing? I can’t find donettes because of Randy but that keeps me from getting fat and hampering my goat hunt…
Thanks Randy Newberg!

 

[brockel]

Had to settle for the lowly shredded coconut.

Hope I’m never that hungry

 

[X13]

I've been an advocate of just this thing. The content producers need to be regulated by more than just going and getting the land management agency film permit (which may not even be a thing in the future). The state should heavily regulate tag availability...commercial/for profit content producers should not be given access to the same tag pool as the non-commercial guys (i.e., the average folks actually just trying to hunt).

The enforcement would be pretty easy...and we could make the bar awfully high (by severly limiting how many tags are available to 'content producers').

I would like to see folks start pushing this type of regulation in their respective states when season/regulation comment periods open.

I'd be settle for filming permits being prohibitively expensive, heavily regulated, limited in number, and with a well funded enforcement division.

This should include all use of public lands for monetized purposes.

 

[rwc101]

I couldn't resist the siren song of the coconut crunch donettes. Hunt cat approved.

 

[BuzzH]

So if I’m understanding things correctly the future of western hunting is just like Schlitz beer, “it’s not THAT bad”. Just think of how much worse it could be.
What a way to celebrate success.

I think you need to look around yourself more and try to comprehend just HOW bad it could be.

Ask yourself if wildlife habitat is better today than 40 years ago.

Ask yourself if migration corridors have been maintained.

Ask yourself how much development has changed the landscape.

Yes, it is a way to celebrate success for those that are acutely aware of the mountains of things that are constantly working against wildlife and against habitat and against public lands.

If you think that habitat just takes care of itself because you buy a $20 elk tag and a $16 deer tag, you'd be wrong. You would also be wrong the the various game and fish agencies have the ultimate say in regard to habitat, you'd be wrong again.

Make NO mistake, what success's that wildlife, public lands, habitat, hunting, fishing, trapping have realized is not by complacency, by doing nothing, or buying a license to kill an animal.

What I learned really fast when I started getting active is that very few people take the time to do ANYTHING, other than buy a tag and maybe complain to the guy on the next bar stool (or hunting board).

The faces and names don't change. I can assure you that I could walk into any FWP meeting in Missoula now, and I wouldn't have to be there long to recognize many friends that are still out there putting their necks on the line. Doing so at their own peril, at their own expense, trying to keep what they enjoyed for a bunch of people, who quite frankly, don't deserve it. Ungrateful deadbeats who like to take cheap shots every chance they get to run down those who have worked, mostly thanklessly and without any kind of compensation, so those same ungrateful folks have a place to hunt, fish, camp, recreate. Guys like @hearteater , whining because he cant have a "glory tag", not knowing that without the work of a handful of dedicated folks, he wouldn't even have the opportunity to apply for a tag. The animals wouldn't exist or certainly not exist at levels to allow ANY kind of hunting but for the work of the folks he's kicking in the teeth.

The deeper I dove into the conservation advocacy pool, the quicker I realized that there are a small, but deeply dedicated bunch of people who are keeping what we have, and keeping us from losing it all.

If all you're going to do is complain, then I would much rather see you quit and move on to golf, knitting, video games, whatever blows your hair back. I wouldn't continue to participate in something you seem so miserable about.

If you think you can do it better, then do it and quit being a pain in the ass. You start leading in a positive way people will follow. If you don't want to lead, then at the very least, be an advocate for those willing to do so rather than an antagonist.

Finally, those out there doing the most realize its a constant round of criticism from the do-nothing crowd. It goes with the territory and you can be as big an ass you want to be, it won't deter those with a goal in mind and bigger fish to fry than your feelings.

 

[TheTone]

Habitat around me is certainly worse than 40 years ago. The massive amount of noxious weed infestations that have occurred in that time period are flat out ruining areas and treatment of them is not making a dent. I don’t think there is any spraying where I most commonly hunt that doesn’t come from a boom truck and looking at some areas that I recently saw sprayed the person doing it must not have known the difference between weeds and native plants

 

[DFS]

I think you need to look around yourself more and try to comprehend just HOW bad it could be.

Ask yourself if wildlife habitat is better today than 40 years ago.

Ask yourself if migration corridors have been maintained.

Ask yourself how much development has changed the landscape.

Yes, it is a way to celebrate success for those that are acutely aware of the mountains of things that are constantly working against wildlife and against habitat and against public lands.

If you think that habitat just takes care of itself because you buy a $20 elk tag and a $16 deer tag, you'd be wrong. You would also be wrong the the various game and fish agencies have the ultimate say in regard to habitat, you'd be wrong again.

Make NO mistake, what success's that wildlife, public lands, habitat, hunting, fishing, trapping have realized is not by complacency, by doing nothing, or buying a license to kill an animal.

What I learned really fast when I started getting active is that very few people take the time to do ANYTHING, other than buy a tag and maybe complain to the guy on the next bar stool (or hunting board).

The faces and names don't change. I can assure you that I could walk into any FWP meeting in Missoula now, and I wouldn't have to be there long to recognize many friends that are still out there putting their necks on the line. Doing so at their own peril, at their own expense, trying to keep what they enjoyed for a bunch of people, who quite frankly, don't deserve it. Ungrateful deadbeats who like to take cheap shots every chance they get to run down those who have worked, mostly thanklessly and without any kind of compensation, so those same ungrateful folks have a place to hunt, fish, camp, recreate. Guys like @hearteater , whining because he cant have a "glory tag", not knowing that without the work of a handful of dedicated folks, he wouldn't even have the opportunity to apply for a tag. The animals wouldn't exist or certainly not exist at levels to allow ANY kind of hunting but for the work of the folks he's kicking in the teeth.

The deeper I dove into the conservation advocacy pool, the quicker I realized that there are a small, but deeply dedicated bunch of people who are keeping what we have, and keeping us from losing it all.

If all you're going to do is complain, then I would much rather see you quit and move on to golf, knitting, video games, whatever blows your hair back. I wouldn't continue to participate in something you seem so miserable about.

If you think you can do it better, then do it and quit being a pain in the ass. You start leading in a positive way people will follow. If you don't want to lead, then at the very least, be an advocate for those willing to do so rather than an antagonist.

Finally, those out there doing the most realize its a constant round of criticism from the do-nothing crowd. It goes with the territory and you can be as big an ass you want to be, it won't deter those with a goal in mind and bigger fish to fry than your feelings.

Sorry Buzz I can’t agree with you. There was a better path for conservation than pounding wildlife and public land into oblivion. Promoting hunting, overcrowding public lands, and the wildlife taking the brunt of it is a no for me. We are just seeing the start of the monetizing of western hunting. Who knows what it will look like in 5 years even. And the influencers and promoters played a big roll in that. You can blast me all you want, I’m not on the wrong side of wildlife and conservation.

 

[Point Creep]

We are just seeing the start of the monetizing of western hunting.

Huh?

 

[Stocker]

Huh?

Outdoorsman only fans. HT’rs can post sexy pics online and charge women to look. It’s my idea, don’t steal it! I’ll make literally dozens of dollars.

 

[rogerthat]

Outdoorsman only fans. HT’rs can post sexy pics online and charge women to look. It’s my idea, don’t steal it! I’ll make literally dozens of dollars.

Your late to the game. I had this idea months ago. See one of the sheep threads. I was going to dress a little skimpy even…but of course sitka still

 

[Hilljackoutlaw]

We are just seeing the start of the monetizing of western hunting.

I disagree I think we're witnessing the peak and it's gonna slowly start tapering off. As the glamorous shine fades the Johnny come latelys will fade with it. Today's generations get bored quickly and move onto other things.

 

[DFS]

Huh?

It’s going to get worse.

 

[Ben Lamb]

Habitat around me is certainly worse than 40 years ago. The massive amount of noxious weed infestations that have occurred in that time period are flat out ruining areas and treatment of them is not making a dent. I don’t think there is any spraying where I most commonly hunt that doesn’t come from a boom truck and looking at some areas that I recently saw sprayed the person doing it must not have known the difference between weeds and native plants

This is a massive issue for many species across the US. It's chronically underfunded and has not been adequately addressed at the federal level. In the west, fire, motorized use, grazing and stock trailing all contribute to it, but not having money for restoration after prairie fires in particular come through means cheatgrass gets to take hold and turn large swaths of country into ecological deserts. The Great Basin is probably the hardest hit in this. It's a long term, sustained effort that has to happen in order to make a dent in the issue.

 

[Stocker]

Your late to the game. I had this idea months ago. See one of the sheep threads. I was going to dress a little skimpy even…but of course sitka still

Damn……. I’m always a day late and dollar short. If you get it off the ground let me know. I’ll invest in pharma companies that make anti-nausea meds.