Newest US Senate Land Sale Amendment

[Pucky Freak]

Do we have any idea what Mike Lee is scrambling to do right now? Certainly feels like he should be backed into a corner now, but his silence the last day and a half makes me a little nervous.

 

[cityslicker]

We've now got Politico talking about the opposition to public land sales inside of Congress-

https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2025/06/26/congress/five-house-republicans-declare-red-line-on-land-sales-in-megabill-00428521

 

[Southern Elk]

Fox News is covering this. Unfortunately they quote Lee playing the affordable housing card.

House Republican opposing proposed sale of public lands says he's still against Senate bill: 'I remain a no'

Republican Rep. Ryan Zinke expressed continued opposition to the Trump-backed Senate reconciliation measure due to his opposition to federal land sales

www.foxnews.com

 

[SAJ-99]

The point is political capital.

Notice the timing of this, Daines statement and some others: looks like Lee’s efforts are almost certainly dead in the water at this point- it’s a safe time to make tough statement to try to earn some political capital (without the risk of getting sideways with DT).

Yeah, you’re probably right. But not being able to just call the Speaker and tell him where you stand shows how dysfunctional the entire body is. And “…restore fiscal sanity”? Do they type that with a straight face? The other members of their party voting ‘no’ would certainly disagree with that effusive statement.

 

[kansasdad]

The Twitterverse of MAGA-land is trying to demonize the Parliamentarian for her role in keeping multiple add-ons out of the BBB. She is keeping folks messing with Medicaid stymied in a similar fashion to Lee's attempts to get public land sell-offs out of a reconciliation package.

 

[Forkyfinder]

The point is political capital.

Notice the timing of this, Daines statement and some others: looks like Lee’s efforts are almost certainly dead in the water at this point- it’s a safe time to make tough statement to try to earn some political capital (without the risk of getting sideways with DT).

I'll go out here on a limb and say that daines and zinke did more than enough (and thats why we are here) when it didnt grant them political capital at all.

Generally - people assign malice where chaos is a perfectly good explanation.

 

[Southern Elk]

The Twitterverse of MAGA-land is trying to demonize the Parliamentarian for her role in keeping multiple add-ons out of the BBB. She is keeping folks messing with Medicaid stymied in a similar fashion to Lee's attempts to get public land sell-offs out of a reconciliation package.

There’s a time and place for every kind of legislation. The reconciliation bill isn’t meant for much of what they are trying to pass. If they want to pass something, put it up for a 60% vote. That’s how the senate is meant to work.

 

[Treeshark]

I'll go out here on a limb and say that daines and zinke did more than enough

I give Zinke credit. If it actually goes to a vote and Daines stands by his word I will be impressed- he really hasn’t had to put himself out there on this one yet.

 

[KMO385]

The Twitterverse of MAGA-land is trying to demonize the Parliamentarian for her role in keeping multiple add-ons out of the BBB. She is keeping folks messing with Medicaid stymied in a similar fashion to Lee's attempts to get public land sell-offs out of a reconciliation package.

I remember a fit being thrown like 4 years ago when one party wanted too can the filibuster. Isn't putting non budget related things on reconciliation to by pass the 60 votes in the same boat???? Wierd how hypocrisy works.

 

[stoep]

I need that on CD!

Here is the MP3

https://drive.google.com/file/d/18ekzrtVQuohgUdOxGSqp0GV8QnNbbrl4/view?usp=sharing

 

[Big Fin]

Here is the MP3

https://drive.google.com/file/d/18ekzrtVQuohgUdOxGSqp0GV8QnNbbrl4/view?usp=sharing

Genius!

"Don't let the door hit your ass on your way out."

 

[nrpate05]

Genius!

"Don't let the door hit your ass on your way out."

This is a genuinely good song!

 

[dranrab]

The same parliamentarian stripped the HPA out of the bill. I doubt seriously that provision had much if any push back at all. There's always someone out their willing to give the middle finger to the will of the public.

 

[Ben Lamb]

The same parliamentarian stripped the HPA out of the bill. I doubt seriously that provision had much if any push back at all. There's always someone out their willing to give the middle finger to the will of the public.

The Parliamentarian is only following the rules that the Senate has set for themselves. If you want to be angry at someone, then be angry at the people who can't be bothered to follow their own rules.

 

[Forkyfinder]

The Parliamentarian is only following the rules that the Senate has set for themselves. If you want to be angry at someone, then be angry at the people who can't be bothered to follow their own rules.

Selling govt property =/ budget
Reducing/raising taxes = budget

 

[Gulf of America]

The same parliamentarian stripped the HPA out of the bill. I doubt seriously that provision had much if any push back at all. There's always someone out their willing to give the middle finger to the will of the public.

Sounds like there's still hope to revise the language to the House version that just zeroes the tax rather than removing suppressors and SBR's from the NFA entirely. That would still be a win in my book.

 

[Gulf of America]

Selling govt property =/ budget
Reducing/raising taxes = budget

I didn't realize the Senate version removed items from the NFA entirely. It makes sense to me that that's getting out over their skis on policy vs fiscal changes. Hopefully the House version passes, although a cynical part of me wonders if R's don't want to keep this as something to campaign on.

 

[quarterhorse]

Just finished making my daily calls to the Idaho Delegation. Finally someone answered the phone in Representative Fulchers office. The staffer told me Congressman Fulcher is in favor of the bill language Lee is offering up and is additionally in favor of State Transfer.

He voted for the original version in the House.

Those of us in his district of Idaho can react accordingly at the polls...

 

[brymoore]

Just finished making my daily calls to the Idaho Delegation. Finally someone answered the phone in Representative Fulchers office. The staffer told me Congressman Fulcher is in favor of the bill language Lee is offering up and is additionally in favor of State Transfer.

He voted for the original version in the House.

Those of us in his district of Idaho can react accordingly at the polls...

Fulcher sucks.

 

[Forkyfinder]

I didn't realize the Senate version removed items from the NFA entirely. It makes sense to me that that's getting out over their skis on policy vs fiscal changes. Hopefully the House version passes, although a cynical part of me wonders if R's don't want to keep this as something to campaign on.

What is the NFA functionally doing?

When the FBI phugged up my stuff for a form 4 - i finally got a hold of someone at the atf who explained the process on their end is largely just making sure the paper work is accurate. If we are cutting gov employment - those ATF officials would make my list. Through many calls, and back channel communication (through my reps), i found out that firearms are prioritized delayed 4473s - and nfa items goto the back of the pile. The FBI has three days to figure it out (delayed 4473) before an ffl can proceed. No such timeframe exists for NFA items.

Its not at all expanding access to firearms. In fact - courts have recently ruled that suppressors are firearms. I hope there are lawsuits going forward to change that - like there were 10 ish years ago with the unjust appeals process.

There is no expanded background check. Its an unconstitutional wait that was justified as a "tax" thats now conviently not a "tax."

It absolutely shouldnt have been nixed by the parliamentarianb