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If off-road vehicle enthusiasts ever build a museum, a statue of former Idaho Gov. John Evans should stand out front, a scowl on his face, and his now-famous saying - "You're politically insignificant" - on the statue's pedestal.
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Evans made that remark in 1984 to Clark Collins, an electrician and avid dirt biker who wanted the governor to help keep the public lands open to motorized recreation.

Evans' disdain ate at Collins, who was already angry at the way public land was being closed to people like him. So he set out to prove Evans wrong. Within three years, Collins had formed the Blue Ribbon Coalition, a national off-road group based in Pocatello, Idaho. Today, his coalition boasts more than 500,000 constituents plus tight links to gem collectors, fossil hunters and others who feel shut out of public lands.

Similar organizations for jeepers, snowmobilers, all-terrain vehicle riders and dirt bikers have since cropped up all over the West. The clubs vary in philosophy, size and political influence, but almost all were formed because off-road enthusiasts felt powerless as they lost access to public land through wilderness designations and stricter land management.

"You used to be able to take a motorbike anywhere," says Eric Lundquist of the American Motorcyclists Association. That began to change in the 1970s, when two presidential orders, one from Richard Nixon, then another from Jimmy Carter, directed federal land managers to close areas damaged by off-road vehicles. Today, the two agencies that allow the most riding - the Bureau of Land Management and the Forest Service - are both moving toward permitting motorized recreation only on signed trails in designated areas. "I don't think anyone gets into this sport because they want to be politically active," adds Lundquist. "But you learn you have to be."

They've become good at it. Thanks to legislation forwarded by motorized interests, they are years ahead of other trail users in paying for their use of public land. Most Western states now have pots of money which help build and maintain trails and are kept full from vehicle registration fees and gas taxes. A national fund was established in 1991.

The groups also have friendly ties with federal land managers. They encourage their members to volunteer with land management agencies by adopting public trails and taking over their maintenance, actions that are much appreciated in this era of lean budgets. They even hold "good neighbor" banquets for federal land managers who help further their interests.

As Jerry Abboud, executive director of the Colorado Off-Highway Vehicle Coalition, puts it: "We're not the beer-swilling half-wits people think we are."

The process of creep:

ORVs have long raised the hackles of environmentalists. It seemed heretical to allow in the backcountry a machine that uses gas, belches exhaust, rips up the land, scares wildlife and shatters the silence. But until recently, most activists were too busy battling mining, logging and grazing to pay serious attention to this feisty new kid on the block.

As director of the Southern Rockies Ecosystem Project, Roz McClellan had been more focused on habitat fragmentation caused by logging roads when she suddenly found herself pitted against off-roaders who adamantly opposed new trail restrictions in Colorado's Rio Grande National Forest. She says she's been "electrified" ever since.

"Recreation is being touted as a benign alternative to extraction," says McClellan. "But some of us are seeing it as the new nemesis, a new destructive force for habitat. In some ways it's more insidious than the old foes of logging and mining."

How so? Unlike loggers, ranchers and miners, ORVers are not in decline, says McClellan. Far from it. As outdoor recreationists age and as people have more money than time, a growing number of recreationists are expected to trade in their hiking boots or their horse for a backcountry vehicle. The Forest Service estimates that 130 million ORV trips will be taken nationwide in 2040, up from about 80 million trips in 1987.
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Second, if the willingness of ORVers to pay for their use of public lands is music to the ears of land managers, it sounds an alarm to environmentalists, who often view the relationship between open-handed off-roaders and financially strapped land managers as too cozy. Plus, some land managers have incorporated ORVs into their culture. While hiking recently in a Montana wilderness study area, several members of the Montana Wilderness Association were horrified to find a Forest Service ranger patrolling on an ATV. Usually, restrictions are so tight in these areas that mountain bikes and electric toothbrushes are prohibited.

From the environmentalists' perspective, federal land managers are too lax. They claim the agencies either don't have the resources to enforce trail closures, or simply don't want to enforce them. John Gatchell of MWA draws a direct connection between this and the off-roaders' financial contributions to the feds: "Who's making public policy?" he asks. "Right now, Kawasaki, Polaris and Yamaha are. Whatever they make is allowed on public land."

Third, off-road vehicles are harder to monitor than more traditional uses of the land. Since most trail projects are so small, agencies often forego a full environmental analysis, says McClellan. Just as frequently, trails are created informally by repeated use. "Motorized trails occur through a process of creep," says McClellan. "There's no starting point. It's as if a logging sale were assessed tree by tree."

Wilderness is the target:

Beyond those headaches, off-road vehicles pose the same threats of erosion, soil compaction and habitat fragmentation that the more traditional resource industries do.

Off-road vehicles can pulverize plants and soil, leaving trails and "play areas" vulnerable to washouts and erosion. They pack underlying dirt as hard as black top, making it difficult for new plants to take root. In rainstorms, paths used to climb hills can quickly deteriorate into gouged-out gullies, filling streams with silt and killing fish.

On this point, environmentalists acknowledge the ORV community is somewhat self-policing. By encouraging their members to stay on trails and by promoting light-on-the-land recreation through the Forest Service concept, Tread Lightly!, off-road groups hope to prevent further road closures by proving that they can use the land responsibly.

Some recreational riders have even joined environmentalists, ranchers and non-motorized hunters and outfitters in asking state wildlife officials and the Forest Service to restrict ATV use during hunting season. Because, as McClellan estimates, as much as 95 percent of the damage caused by ATVs occurs during fall big-game season, the year-round riders are anxious to distance themselves from the carnage. The average trail rider doesn't have much reason to depart from an established route, but a freshly killed elk represents a 300-pound magnet pulling a vehicle into the bush. The ground is also vulnerable in the fall after the first snows soften the ground.

But cooperation between trail riders and environmentalists usually dissolves at the planning level. The past few years have been particularly heated, says McClellan, since the Forest Service is now in the thick of its first 10-year forest plan revisions. In many forests, trail decisions have proved even more contentious than logging quotas.

In western Colorado's Grand Mesa, for example, a consensus approach flopped because the off-road enthusiast consistently disagreed with the seven other people representing other forest uses. After motorized groups appealed the final plan, forest officials said they would consider reopening a third of the trails they just closed. A final decision has not been made.

Another hot spot is the Targhee National Forest in Idaho. Opposition to the draft forest plan led off-road enthusiasts, community leaders, loggers and ranchers to form a group called CUFF, Citizens for a User Friendly Forest. More than 100 people protested last spring, saying that the proposed reduction by 30 percent of motorized roads and trails is too extreme. The final plan is expected next spring.

But what worries environmentalists most about off-road vehicles is the threat they pose to primitive areas.

Roads and trails destroy habitat by breaking it up into small islands, says McClellan. The vehicles themselves spread weeds by carrying seeds in their wheels or undercarriages. They can also scare wildlife or disrupt their natural feeding and mating habits. Other recreationists cause similar problems, but the vehicles' range exacerbates the situation: While a hiker might need six miles of trail for a good day trip, an ATV rider requires at least 30 miles.

"We just got a handle on closing logging roads and now we have this new thing opening them back up," says Gatchell. "It's like a monster. You cut off one head and up comes another."

McClellan and Gatchell believe that some off-road enthusiasts target roadless areas to disqualify them as wilderness so they can't be "locked out" in the future. McClellan names three areas in Colorado that are now laced with motorized trails and probably out of the running for future wilderness designation. In 1977, the Forest Service designated them roadless.

Clark Collins of the Blue Ribbon Coalition denies such accusations. "If they're saying we're going into areas where we haven't been before to disqualify it as wilderness, then that's totally groundless," he says. "But if they're saying we're documenting use in existing areas, then we are guilty of that."

But environmentalists are suing. Twelve groups in Washington state won a lawsuit last July against the Forest Service, stopping the agency from improving motorcycle trails in the Dark Divide Roadless Area of the Gifford-Pinchot National Forest. The Montana Wilderness Association filed a similar lawsuit in October, charging the Forest Service with allowing off-road recreation in seven wilderness study areas.

The proof is on the paper:

Meanwhile, both sides are trying to lay claim to as much territory as possible by mapping where they believe motorized routes exist and where they don't. In some cases, federal land managers rely on these maps for information. "Maps are very powerful," says McClellan. "Maps can become a self-fulfilling prophecy."

In southern Utah, for example, retired engineer Ber Knight maps jeep routes around Moab, Utah. As information officer for the Red Rock Four Wheelers, the jeeping club that hosts Moab's Easter Jeep Safari, he started out by mapping routes for the event. Since then, he's inventoried nearly all the roads in Emery and Grand counties. After plotting some 2,500 miles of roads, he believes 95 percent are "machine-made," not carved from repeated jeep use.

Some 230 miles away in Salt Lake City, Gordon Swenson, a retired lawyer and member of the Utah Wilderness Coalition, is mapping the desert to disprove the existence of some roads that Utah counties say exist inside BLM wilderness study areas. There have been a few absurd examples, he says, such as a "road" in the North Escalante Canyon Wilderness Study Area which turns into a waterfall, plus another one in the San Rafael Reef area which is actually a navigable waterway. While mapping, he says, he's noticed plenty of fresh vehicle tracks inside WSAs.
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A "matter of culture":

Who are off-road enthusiasts and what makes them so committed? At first glance, they're just as diverse as any group of recreationists.

Retired Forest Service engineer Bill Sutton, for example, likes nothing better than riding on his ATV through Colorado forests, alone except for his dog, who perches between two milk crates behind him. Clark Collins usually takes excursions with family members in tow. He boasts four generations in the sport, ranging from his 5-year-old granddaughter, who owns a tiny flak jacket and a mini dirt bike with training wheels, to his septuagenarian parents, who ride ATVs and snowmobiles. Sutton's friend, banker Kim Kokesh, now rides ATVs instead of horses with his wife.

And Wayne Young, a wealthy dentist from Orem, Utah, rides more for the challenge. He's learned to do "tricks" with his Jeep on slickrock near Moab - tricks such as scaling rock faces so steep a rock climber might use a rope. "I like tense, close things," he says. "That's why dentistry and four-wheeling go together."

But most off-road enthusiasts share a few values besides a passion for the sport. One is a love of freedom.

"You're free to go as fast as you want, take this trail or that, stop when you want to," says Mel Quale, a veteran dirt biker and member of the Magic Valley Trail Machine Association. "It's a feeling that you're in control of your own doing at that time. You're reinforcing that you have skills and abilities. It's almost intoxicating. You say, 'Yeah, I may be 60 years old, but I feel like I did when I was 20.'"

That feeling is partly why sport utility vehicles, like Range Rovers and Ford Explorers, are so popular these days. One of Young's friends from Moab, Dan Mick, earns $150-$300 a day showing wealthy people from places like Miami, New York and Los Angeles what their Range Rovers can do. "More and more people are buying sport utility vehicles and they want to try them out on weekends," says Mick. "We go out and test man and machine."

Money is another unifying force. In Utah, for example, the average off-roading family spends $8,000 per year. At nearly $6,000 for a racing ATV like the Yamaha Banshee, or almost $1,500 for a kid's dirt bike, the Peewee 50, the sport comes with a built-in financial commitment.

A third common factor - perhaps the strongest among committed riders - is a general dislike of the designation of land as "wilderness" and a distrust of environmentalists. "Off-road enthusiasts don't necessarily see eye to eye on everything," says Quale, "but we try to downplay our differences because we know we're facing a much bigger enemy with the national environmental groups."

It's ironic for such a hi-tech sport, but many ORVers talk about custom and culture just as passionately as any fifth-generation rancher might. It's a clash of values, similar to the rift between ranchers and environmentalists, says Ralph Maughan, a political scientist from Idaho, who sparred with Collins of the Blue Ribbon Coalition over wilderness designations in the 1980s. The off-road enthusiasts have pretty much aligned with the Republican party, he adds, just as environmentalists did with the Democrats.

At the heart of the mistrust is a perceived class difference. Studies show that even though they're well-off, off-road enthusiasts are more likely to be mechanics or heavy equipment operators than lawyers or doctors. "Most of us think more blue collar," says Quale. "We're down-home folks. We do consider environmentalists to be elitists. It's just a different culture."

Many off-road enthusiasts also feel singled out by environmentalists. They say no matter how responsible they become, some critics still won't be satisfied.

"Philosophically, they say we don't belong on public lands," says Abboud of the Colorado Off-Highway Vehicle Coalition. "But we pay our own way and we have lots of families who ride. What I don't understand is why people dislike us just because of who we are. I wish they'd step off the moral high ground and work with us, rather than targeting us as some damnable freak of nature."

"We're asking that no more public lands get closed off," says Dana Bell of the American Motorcyclists Association. "We're also asking for a quality experience. Riding down a graded dirt road is not fun. We're looking for scenic opportunity, to get away from the crowds. We don't want to be relegated to play pits or exiled to a sandbox."

John Trammell, an environmentalist who works for Trout Unlimited in Colorado, ponders his feelings about ORVs from the top of the Uncompaghre Plateau, a forest riddled with motorized trails. He says he could learn to share trails with ORVs because he fears the alternative: the Balkanization of the forest into hundreds of specialized trail uses.

Still, he can't get over the feeling that off-road enthusiasts lack legitimacy. "Off-road enthusiasts don't love the forest as much as I do. If they did, they would not want to create motorized routes," he says. "The day will come when I can't pack an elk out after a hunt. When that day comes, I won't think I'm entitled to a motorized prosthesis. I'll stay at home, read books, listen to music and tie my flies."

Truce:

Given the chasm between the two groups, how can land managers ever hope to negotiate their differences?
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One idea is to not give up. Deb Rawhouser, national trails coordinator for the BLM, says her agency is trying to get motorized recreationists and their critics to understand each other better. One event she's planning is a rally where off-road enthusiasts try hiking or walking, while foot-users get behind a wheel.

She says some consensus efforts have worked, especially if discussions stay focused on trails rather than drifting into the more ethereal realm of values. On Colorado's Vail Pass, for example, the Forest Service successfully worked out a truce between snowmobilers and cross-country skiers. Both groups accepted limitations and agreed to peacefully share a few common trails.

Another, more controversial solution, is to charge user fees for all users of public land. Then the agencies would know beyond a doubt which use was most popular in a certain area, and could react accordingly.

"The incentive right now is not to sit down and cooperate," says Oregon-based free-market economist Randal O'Toole. "It's to demonize the opposition. Until we get user fees for off-road vehicles and all other users, then it's going to continue to be a political situation."

California has already moved towards a different market solution. With money from its annual $30 million ORV program, the state purchased five private recreational areas devoted exclusively to the sport. The off-road enthusiasts seem happy with the areas, and environmentalists are happy to have them bounded.

Even harsh critics like Gatchell are happy to see private areas relieve the burden on public land. But to him, the issue is more fundamental: "If federal land managers make room for every machine man invents, there won't be any backcountry left. Should we have to fight for every inch of the forest?"

<FONT COLOR="#800080" SIZE="1">[ 02-26-2003 10:21: Message edited by: michaelr ]</font>
 
"Because, as McClellan estimates, as much as 95 percent of the damage caused by ATVs occurs during fall big-game season, the year-round riders are anxious to distance themselves from the carnage" sounds like she doesn't like hunters either, maybe hunters are next on her list of things to ban.
 
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR> Riding down a graded dirt road is not fun. We're looking for scenic opportunity, to get away from the crowds. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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"We're looking for scenic opportunity, to get away from the crowds."
OMG, they sound just like some other people we know.
 
That a real good post.
I also dont think it represents all riders.
Not all riders are interested in going off the trails or roads.
I dont know any that are intrested in opening up wilderness to motorized travel,im sure they are out there but I havent met any yet.
We still have to understand (and work against)that fraction of people that just dont want anyone using public lands for anything but hiking!!!!!.
That includes hunting.
I look at it as two issue.
1.Multipal Use (supporting the BlueRibbon Colation)
2.Hunting issues (Supporting hunting org. )both groups are working towards stopping illegal use.
 
Should there be areas other than designated wilderness that are closed to motor traffic? What is meant my multiple use? I talked with a guy this weekend that was representing a local conservation group and handing out Blue Ribbon Coalition information. He stated that they were against the closing of trails...even the illegal ones that ran through wilderness study areas! His reasoning was that they had been there, why close them instead of maintaining them. This is a new group and the guy could have been speaking for himself and not the organization as a whole. I will say they do have some pretty powerful players on board, Orin Hatch for one.
 
I don't support leaving the illegal trails through wilderness(even study areas)open. Those trails are not supposed to be and should not be there.
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I do support leaving routes (gating old road systems) through the forest open for ATV riding. It is easier (cheaper) to maintain a road for ATV travel then it is "full size vehicle" travel. ATV groups have helped with the construction of outhouse facilities for everyone, helped with construction of stream and creek crossing to benefit everyone.....
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"Riding down a graded dirt road is not fun. We're looking for scenic opportunity, to get away from the crowds. "

I have an idea. Park your ATV on the graded road and walk your fat ass into the areas "away from the crowds". These multiple use people remind me of the morons on that TV show Gold Fever. They make it seem like it is OK to destroy our lands as long as they are having fun doing it.
 
Few,I think you are mistaking people wanting to have options with the ones that are into doing things in an illegal manner.
What I got out of that guys statement ,was not that he wanted to rape the landscape ,but that many riders like the idea of leaving open some of the trails and old roads we now have,and not being stuck to a graded dirt road.
How boring would that be.
As it is now many riders use these roads to get into places and then hike.
One of the local motorcycle clubs has a ride into area's (on open roads and trails)that no lazy fat assed person would be able to go.
In fact I would bet some of the fit young guys would be hard pressed to ride into alot of those spots without having the pucker factor working.


All in area that have been open many many years,so why close them now?
If others like that on the edge type of outdoor recreation and its on open stuff now ,I see no reason except the control factor working to be closing them down.
Dont you also like to drive on older roads into the national forest or on BLM lands?
I know for myself I like the less traveled dirt road over that nice graded tourest loop
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I like not having any roads at all into an area. Are you really getting away from it all while on the seat of an atv, whether or not the road is "old"?
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Nothing like the noise of an atv to get that true wilderness/wild experience.
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Why not a horse? An ATV has nothing on a horse if you want to get to impossible places. ATV's are good for work and the disabled. We use them in GPS work for mapping and spraying weeds. I would never use one for hunting, but that's my preferance. I don't care if people use them, but if you mess up my hunting with one; I'll gut shoot you, draw and quarter you, and leave you on an ant pile for coyote bait.
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<FONT COLOR="#800080" SIZE="1">[ 02-27-2003 19:05: Message edited by: Troy Jones ]</font>
 
So, should roads and/or trails stay open just because they've been there for quite some time? Not buying that one.

If graded roads are boring I'm sure the next step to some is that maintained trails are boring. Where to go next?

One thing I am seeing is that the some of the faults accused of extremist environmental groups is the same as some ATVers argue. Extreme environmental groups are always accused of 'not seeing the whole picture', wanting to 'close everything down', etc. However, most ATV groups or riders don't volunteer to close down any trails and actually promote new/maintained trails. They condone the setting aside of certain areas with little to no restrictions for off road travel. Is that seeing the whole picture? Just seems funny that what one group condemns another for is what they do, but just from a different angle. At least that's the view from the cheap seats.
 
"However, most ATV groups or riders don't volunteer to close down any trails and actually promote new/maintained trails. They condone the setting aside of certain areas with little to no restrictions for off road travel"
1Pointer,thats not true,alot of groups understand the need to have some area closed down,there arent asking to go all over the place.
If that were the case I would be standing with you.
Not all old roads or trails should be left open but mass closures are not the answer either.
Buzz,there is nothing wrong with hiking in and getting away from it all,just as there is another type of feel from using something motorized to get in around on sometimes.
Horses? Nothing wrong with them ,I grew up riding and owning horses,Steve and I have had many of them.
But they arent the answer for everyone either.
Unless you live someplace where you have pasture or board your horse out ,you have to make sure someone is around to feed & water anytime you decide to do anything that isnt related to horses.
I dont have to worry about my ATV if at anytime I want to take off for a week or a few days.
If by chance some bubba takes a pot shot at it,its not like a horse or my dog and I would feel real bad about it LOL Insurance ya know.
They all have there place,they are all fun.
On shooting someone for messing up there hunt?
Should that also count when I have had other hunters on horses (mess up my hunt)?

Where do we draw that line?
Maybe you guys see more abuse then I do,because I really dont come across this wide spread off road abuse,they again I relate this to anyother sport I have been in where I see people that love something go off on trying to make everyone use the same type of equiptment and fighting over whats best,how much is theres.
I see it as there is enough pie for everyone as long as we are all willing to share and not try to take the whole pie for ourselfs.
If you want to eat pie with your hands I dont care as long as you leave a little for the way I want to eat it.
 
My take is that those folks just want someplace to ride.. big deal. I don't have a problem with that. there are enough old logging roads and such to allow that.
I don't think it should be allowed during hunting season. but during the summer I don't see the problem. We have people who enjoy all sorts of extreem sports from rafting mountain climbing ect ect.
It wouldn't be my first choice as a summer time recreation but I aint going to tell my neighbor that he can't.
 
1PNTR, were did anyone say that all roads and trails need to stay open for ATV's because they've been there for awhile?

This issue over graded roads, in my eyes, is the issue over being retricted to roads occupied by "full size" vehicles. I have only seen it a couple of times, but "full size" vehicles do a number on an ATV and rider when they meet on a corner. I believe in having travel areas open for ATV use.

I don't here BUZZ or ITHACA grand standing the cause for stopping snow machines on game winter range, yet those machines are "harassing" game at a critical time of year, and you call yourselves conservationists? Of course that probably doesn't bother you, your probably home and out of the inclimate backcountry. Attack the ATV's, their out there when the animals have the most cover, and can escape unobstructed (should they feel the need). Because you feel it affects you directly, way to think of the wildlife needs.

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Ten, are you making shit up?

Yes, you are. Where did I say I was for having snowmachines running around on winter range?

Where is it?

How do you know I'm not trying to get more restrictions on snowmobile use in known winter range?

By the way, most crucial big-game winter range is being protected in most western states. Theres lots of BLM, FS, and state managed wildlife areas, etc. that are completely closed to snowmobiles, vehicles, atv's, etc. etc. to protect wintering animals. You know that, dont you?

Also, you're shallow and narrow-minded interpretation of why I dont want ATV's tearing up the woods and harrassing wildlife during hunting season is way off base....

Please refrain from making wild-assed guesses about things and people you dont know anything about.

Thank you for also letting us all know that big-game doesnt need secure areas during hunting season....
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Lets get them all on the run and have an atv trail on every last inch of NF, BLM, State, and Private land...just make sure they have winter range, thats all they need
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<FONT COLOR="#800080" SIZE="1">[ 02-28-2003 10:40: Message edited by: BuzzH ]</font>
 
Ten- I did not say that anyone here said that, but going off the guy I talked to that represented a local group. Do you think the ATVers were fighting to close any of the roads/trail in the Grand Rafael Swell in UT? Nope. I never once heard groups in the paper mention closing down some of the trials, but advocated keeping them open.

Plus: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR> All in area that have been open many many years,so why close them now?
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Yes, it is a bit out of context, but is the intent of the statement much different?
 
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