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Montana fwp doesn’t advocate for wildlife. There is a sheep population they gave up on. It’s still here in spite of mtfwp. Everything MTFWP does puts the boot right to the throat of wildlife, they justify it by can’t control the weather, talk to your commissioner, this is what the people want, the data isn’t showing that. The best one I heard was the animals didn’t die they just migrated and couldn’t make it back. That came from a game manager. They don’t have a clue or don’t care that Montana is swirling right down the toilet bowl.
 
DougStickney said:
Montana fwp doesn’t advocate for wildlife. There is a sheep population they gave up on. It’s still here in spite of mtfwp. Everything MTFWP does puts the boot right to the throat of wildlife, they justify it by can’t control the weather, talk to your commissioner, this is what the people want, the data isn’t showing that. The best one I heard was the animals didn’t die they just migrated and couldn’t make it back. That came from a game manager. They don’t have a clue or don’t care that Montana is swirling right down the toilet bowl.
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I seen that sheep population you are talking about last week if im thinking of the right one
 
Fire_9 said:
What are you going to do when you draw the tag? If you can’t afford it upfront, can you afford it when you draw? I understand the sentiment but I don’t think it holds much water
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If you've ever been barely getting by, you'll realize that there is a difference between paying for a once in a lifetime chance to hunt moose, versus loaning the state money for a couple of months that you could definitely use for food or rent.
Of course times have changed from the 80s, when I was struggling with a young family. Nowadays everyone has credit cards, so they'll all front the money anyway.
 
In my mind's eye, the entire cost of the license need not be fronted. It would be an application fee of say $50 for residents that is non refundable. The funds collected go to managing that animal.

Life is far from fair. I agree that hunting should be available to as many as possible. On the big three, the cost of the hunt will exceed the cost of most hunts, since there will be some sort of taxidermy work likely.

There is a lot of hunting available to the person up against it. Deer, pronghorns, and often elk can be hunted on a modest budget.

There is a subset of hunters where hunting is central to who they are. To the extent possible, I think really hard to draw tags should go to hunters who take hunting very seriously.

Some one will get lucky and draw, likely not me or you.

I'd wish everyone good luck, but that would hurt my chances...now wouldn't it?
 
Bambistew said:
I thought the legislature set the tag prices?

Must be the reason why resident tags are so cheap?
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What is your argument? I don't understand what you're getting at and how it relates to my post.

I was responding to the people who think Montana should go back to making NR front tag fees so their odds will get better because it reduces the number of applicants.

I don't think Montana cares for the argument that it will increase draw odds.
 
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Changing the subject here as we’ve still got a week to go…

When did the Spanish Peaks go from an unlimited sheep unit to a draw unit? Were there unlimited goat units once upon a time? If so, when did those go away?
 
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