Land management agency impact stories...

[El Jason]

Ya. Almost as ridiculous as thinking it’s not even worth trying to course correct.

I don’t have any idea what you mean by “course correct”. Please lay out a cogent appeal for how you can have enough LEO presence on public land, to include round the clock coverage, that vandalism would be deterred to a minimal point t you would not need to clean up poop and needles.

 

[rjthehunter]

Acting like you've never heard of an Independent? LOL

But I understand. It's a binary world for some of you "if you ain't with us you're again' us" types.

So you don't lean left at all? Just scrolling back through your post history paints a significantly different picture. If you're anti everything the right side does, and pro everything the left side does. You're whole handedly supporting one party while trying to avoid a liberal label.

Political Independents: Who They Are, What They Think

Most independents are not all that “independent” politically. And the small share of Americans who are truly independent stand out for their low level of interest in politics.

www.pewresearch.org

 

[BuzzH]

Ya. Almost as ridiculous as thinking it’s not even worth trying to course correct.

You never did explain how you hire more LEOs with a hiring freeze and no budget to pay them?

 

[Justabirdwatcher]

So you don't lean left at all? Just scrolling back through your post history paints a significantly different picture. If you're anti everything the right side does, and pro everything the left side does. You're whole handedly supporting one party while trying to avoid a liberal label.

Political Independents: Who They Are, What They Think

Most independents are not all that “independent” politically. And the small share of Americans who are truly independent stand out for their low level of interest in politics.

www.pewresearch.org

Why is it so important to you to place people on the political spectrum? Is it so you can dismiss someone's opinion (or even facts) if they aren't close enough to yours? That's not how it works. Let me help you though - an Independent is someone who can objectively look at ideas without bias or fear of offending their friends or being placed outside of the "group." I'm anti-extremism, on either side. This stupid binary party loyalty is what is killing our democracy. But people on either end of the spectrum are too selfish to care.

 

[rjthehunter]

Why is it so important to you to place people on the political spectrum? Is it so you can dismiss someone's opinion (or even facts) if they aren't close enough to yours? That's not how it works. Let me help you though - an Independent is someone who can objectively look at ideas without bias or fear of offending their friends or being placed outside of the "group." I'm anti-extremism, on either side. This stupid binary party loyalty is what is killing our democracy. But people on either end of the spectrum are too selfish to care.

Let's go back to what I responded to...

classic maga mindset. Clueless about the real issue and compensating with hate.

Why is it so important for you to place people on the political spectrum? Is it so you can dismiss their opinion or facts that don't align with yours?

Do you see the irony in your comments? You're calling someone clueless and assigning them to the maga crowd.

 

[Justabirdwatcher]

Let's go back to what I responded to...


Why is it so important for you to place people on the political spectrum? Is it so you can dismiss their opinion or facts that don't align with yours?

Do you see the irony in your comments? You're calling someone clueless and assigning them to the maga crowd.

I call out extremist positions on either side. And why any of it matters to you so much is the real question. This thread is about Land Mgt. impact stories, not how one person's opinion makes you feel.

 

[rjthehunter]

I call out extremist positions on either side. And why any of it matters to you so much is the real question. This thread is about Land Mgt. impact stories, not how one person's opinion makes you feel.

You claim to call out extremists, I call out liars and people who start trying to make personal attacks on people. "This thread is about land mgt. impact stories"

LOL I'm not democrat pal. And I call it as I see it. Your comments were straight out of a maga manual. Deflect and attack, and ask for more law enforcement. LOL

That answers my question. Bone spurs probably keep you out tho.

But I understand. It's a binary world for some of you "if you ain't with us you're again' us" types.

classic maga mindset. Clueless about the real issue and compensating with hate.

Bro just explained the facts to you but as we all know, maga finds facts to be inconvenient, hence the lashing out. smh

 

[Justabirdwatcher]

You claim to call out extremists, I call out liars and people who start trying to make personal attacks on people. "This thread is about land mgt. impact stories"

I know you'll find this hard to believe, but it wasn't the independent that started the personal attacks on this thread.

Now, do try to add something constructive to the conversation.

 

[Nameless Range]

More than twice in the last 20 years, the Beaverhead Deerlodge NF has started the process of travel management as they have been required to for over two decades. Every time, new administrations with new priorities and budgets insufficient derails it. My county has signed on as a collaborative partner to the process, pouring local tax dollars and volunteer effort into it only to have it wasted. In the last two years, we finally had it going. The groundwork was laid, the data collected, got stakeholders from all aspects of public land use in support, and the process of putting out proposals for public comment was here. Then DOGE and Trump.

A game warden cannot issue a citation for driving on closed roads in the Boulder Mountains, because no travel management exists. Search and Rescue deals with issues related to a lack of formal trails, the resource suffers, and no one really knows what the hell is what. And once again, Lucy snatches the football, and a hell of a lot of work and effort will die on the vine.

 

[Treeshark]

and a hell of a lot of work and effort will die on the vine.

That’s the fault of the local county government though, right? Whoever thought it was appropriate for them to call the shots on federal land got in over their skis.

 

[Nameless Range]

No. The county was given a commitment by the feds that this would be done, and invited to be a collaborative partner. Numerous counties were.

To be clear, being a collaborative partner doesn't mean you get to call the shots, it means you are involved in the process prior to the alternatives being proposed to the public and get to provide input. Put another way, the feds invited counties to collaborate, and in good faith they did. The USFS, the Counties, FWP - all were incorporated into the process.

 

[WyoCoalMiner]

No. The county was given a commitment by the feds that this would be done, and invited to be a collaborative partner. Numerous counties were.

To be clear, being a collaborative partner doesn't mean you get to call the shots, it means you are involved in the process prior to the alternatives being proposed to the public and get to provide input. Put another way, the feds invited counties to collaborate, and in good faith they did. The USFS, the Counties, FWP - all were incorporated into the process.

Frustrating for sure. A similar issue happened to folks in Sweetwater County Wyoming a couple years ago after a new Admin took over the reins. Keep fighting the good fight.

"The working group within Sweetwater County that helped establish the alternatives originally recommended Alternative (D), however, the executive office is the one who decided that the BLM would stand by Alternative (B), which they believe to be the most environmentally impactful for both land and wildlife."

Rock Springs BLM Field Manager explains components of new management plan

Emma Marsing, [email protected] ROCK SPRINGS, WYOMING — Kimberlee Foster, Field Manager for the Rock Springs Bureau of Land Management (BLM), spoke before the Rock Springs City Council yesterday evening to provide more clarity to the Draft Resource Management Plan and the Draft Environmental...

wyo4news.com

 

[Bonasababy]

You can't say this, then follow up in the next post saying you're not a democrat... Everyone who knows how to read knows you're lying.

You realize such statements brand yourself as completely blinded by political bias?

 

[Justabirdwatcher]

Thousands of layoffs to hit Interior, National Parks imminently

Employees fear diminished capacity after RIFs are tacked on to existing mass exodus.

www.govexec.com

 

[Justabirdwatcher]

“At a time when the Trump administration is pushing federal workers out of their jobs, eliminating the FERS supplement would be an especially callous act,”

Budget Package Called a Mix of Incentives to Leave, Disincentives to Take Federal Employment

A budgetary package approved last week by the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee amounts to a set of incentives for current federal employees

www.fedweek.com

 

[marksjeep]

Those who took DRP/VERA and are under 57 years old (not eligible for fers supplement) are about to find themselves royally screwed over.

These are the programs about to get cut at USGS. The Cooperative Fish and Wildlife Research Units might interest folks here, or maybe not. Who knows anymore.

https://www.usgs.gov/mission-areas/ecosystems/programs

Big game migration research completed by CRU scientists. Data releases and references at the end.
https://geonarrative.usgs.gov/muledeer255/

Wildlife is managed by the states and the states do some great research. But sometimes science need to happen independent of state boundaries to understand the system being studied. Especially for systems which can cross state boundaries like waterways, air pollution, migration routes... Seems like a role for a federal science agency. But again, who knows anymore.

 

[Hunting Wife]

Those who took DRP/VERA and are under 57 years old (not eligible for fers supplement) are about to find themselves royally screwed over.

These are the programs about to get cut at USGS. The Cooperative Fish and Wildlife Research Units might interest folks here, or maybe not. Who knows anymore.

https://www.usgs.gov/mission-areas/ecosystems/programs

Big game migration research completed by CRU scientists. Data releases and references at the end.
https://geonarrative.usgs.gov/muledeer255/

Wildlife is managed by the states and the states do some great research. But sometimes science need to happen independent of state boundaries to understand the system being studied. Especially for systems which can cross state boundaries like waterways, air pollution, migration routes... Seems like a role for a federal science agency. But again, who knows anymore.

Just adding to this…here’s a map.

Ecosystems Mission Area Locations

Map of locations of Ecosystems Mission Area locations across the U.S. This map includes the USGS Regions and Department of Interior Unified Regions.

www.usgs.gov

Colleagues in USGS have told me every office on this map is being eliminated. Completely defunded in the proposed budget for 2026. Likely getting RIF notices next week.

This branch contributed a huge amount of research capacity for state wildlife agencies. Once upon a time I did bison work out of NOROCK. In Montana, this is how the bulk of grizzly research has been done, lots of elk migration and mortality work, mountain goat work, and recently they had been working on bighorn sheep disease, moose habitat, and CWD. They were probably working on some worthwhile projects in whatever state you live in too.

 

[bonniecutthroat]

NOROCK has a regional to national impact- from helping Alaska Fish & Game determine how many invasive northern pike they have to remove to still have Pacific salmon in southcentral AK to helping national parks and states in the west monitor and control zebra/quagga mussels to helping state of NY slow the spread of invasive round goby from the Great Lakes to lake Champlain. The same can be said for the other USGS science centers and programs on the chopping block.

 

[BuzzH]

There are going to be serious and irreparable consequences for this horseshit.

 

[BuzzH]

White House Budget Would Gut Conservation and Public Lands

President Donald Trump's budget outline for 2026 would decimate a revered conservation program within the USDA and strip nearly a billion dollars in funding from the National Park Service.

www.fieldandstream.com