I want ground access to all state and federal public lands.

[smalls]

No more landlocked public land that I pay taxes to keep maintained.

Discuss

 

[Nut]

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[ringer]

Uhh-so you think the original post is serious? Lame.

 

[MTbrittany]

How's this? No grazing on public land unless you allow free hunting on your land?

 

[Nut]

Uhh-so you think the original post is serious? Lame.

Nope that is not what I think is lame.

 

[Tom]

Couldn't you fly in and out for most of it, get a ultralight helicopter. The air would be public access, its in the constitution, (just google Big Fin, he's covered it probably).

Otherwise, its a commercial thing, you pay to get there.

 

[Kyhunter42]

I hunted CO this year for the first time. We hunted public land and dealt with tremendous pressure. When we decided to relocate and try to hunt different areas we ran into the same problem. The BLM land was land locked and there was no way to gain access. We found huge tracts of land, I mean several square miles, that completely surrounded by private land. What was so bad was, the tracts of private land were less than a few hundred yards wide at spots. It was just enough to keep the average honest hunter out.

Its not right that I can not gain access to public land without paying a trespass fee.

 

[Tom]

You don't need a liscense for an ultra light and they cost about what a used car costs. http://www.vortechonline.com/g1/

You could build one, there's the plans. What do you think?

 

[Oak]

I think you'd kill yourself trying to get into more mountainous areas.

 

[Tom]

That's why they call it hunting. Would it be legal access?

Start with the $500 glider, but upgrade to an actual chopper when you get the hang of it.

http://www.vortechonline.com/b1920/

 

[brymoore]

I knew a guy who killed himself on a similar machine. I'll just trespass.

 

[Oak]

It would be legal access. I know it has been done in CO and WY by rich guys with helicopters.

 

[Nut]

It would be legal access. I know it has been done in CO and WY by rich guys with helicopters.

I read a article in some magazine a few years back of someone who did this.

 

[Dinkshooter]

Its not right that I can not gain access to public land without paying a trespass fee.

Not saying either side is right but.......................................would you be happy about allowing an easement through your front yard to............... lets say a public park behind your house? Idoubt it

I wish some type of conservation group would sprout up addressing this situation. Raising money to buy property to get access. I would join cause it pisses me off as well and is a huge waste.

 

[Tom]

... I would join cause it pisses me off as well and is a huge waste.

How about the Dinkshooter public access conservation group? We could get two sets of helicopeter plans cheaper, if you want to split the costs?

 

[Dinkshooter]

I declare me el presidente.

Send me your money. We can buy real helicopters.

 

[Tom]

I'll be treasurer. Its $26.95 for two sets, plus shipping, $15 each will get us started.

 

[Tom]

This might be a safer way to do it, a powered parachute.

Fully accesorized two seater for about $16,000 but some at $9000.

http://www.freedomflightinc.com/index.html

 

[Nemont]

Good Luck flying one of those over a place like the CMR in Eastern Montana. If the USFWS guys observe you flying over they assume you are harassing wildlife and will ticket you no questions asked. In addition you cannot just land them anywhere if it is a desinated wilderness area.

Nemont

 

[Tom]

Here's one for $5K, ready to fly. Looks like you need the $750 extra oomph engine for a 300 lb payload though. Its closer to noharleyyet town than mine, maybe he'll go check it out? Its way cheaper than a harley.

http://airframesunlimited.com/usa1b/usa1b.htm

Would it be legal to scout over a wilderness area with one of these?