Hunting areas

diamond hitch

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As I was growing up my father had 3 maybe 4 areas we hunted. That means we knew the ground well as well as the patterns of the elk with regard to the weather and time of the year. By the time I was in college I had expanded that to 12 - 13 areas. I was starting to understand migration paths and the relationships to weather changes. Essentially I would start hunting where the elk rutted which was on the edge of the summer range. With infill and recon I added to my knowledge until I knew where they were going and why. I transitioned from an occasional elk to every year.

I got comfortable. Life was good. Then things changed. The weather got warmer, patterns changed. The last straw was when I came home and the forest service had clearcut 10 of my 12 areas. Main forest service access trails from the 30s were gone. My comfort zone dissolved over the winter and 10 years of recon was dissolved.

I struggled and found an elk that fall - barely. I started over. I plotted topos, walked trails, reconned basins. Crawled through jungles that no would touch. Slowly I built up my knowledge base of new areas. I put in a remote camp because my new area was 2 hours from home. Our success slowly improved and became predictable but I didn't trust fate and felt what happened once would likely happen again. I got into a habit to recon new areas early in the season when the weather wasn't right but was condusive to long traverses that tied areas together and filled in gaps. I found people that had hunted those areas and pieced info together from other hunters experiences. Sure enough I came back one year and there were new roads and more than half of my area was a wasteland. However this time I had enough recon to be able to adjust.

I moved back to Montana and as my father got too old to hunt I started to develop new areas closer to home. My hunting options are now between 16 - 18. I try to recon two new areas each year early in the season to compensate for losses and the unknown. With the wholesale death of the mature lodgepole stands I spend 10 -15 days cutting out elk trails, cow trails and old forest service/mining trails out for egress. As some of these are miles long I can see the elk start to use portions of them within a week. It's easier to facilitate their travel than it is to figure out where they went.

If you are serious about elk hunting, it requires a serious investment in time and energy.
 
diamond hitch,
Thank you Sir. You are a wealth of great knowledge as to Elk hunting and whenever I see you have posted something I always read it. If you ever decide to write a book on Elk hunting please let me know as I would like to be the first in line to by it.
 
As I was growing up my father had 3 maybe 4 areas we hunted. That means we knew the ground well as well as the patterns of the elk with regard to the weather and time of the year. By the time I was in college I had expanded that to 12 - 13 areas. I was starting to understand migration paths and the relationships to weather changes. Essentially I would start hunting where the elk rutted which was on the edge of the summer range. With infill and recon I added to my knowledge until I knew where they were going and why. I transitioned from an occasional elk to every year.

I got comfortable. Life was good. Then things changed. The weather got warmer, patterns changed. The last straw was when I came home and the forest service had clearcut 10 of my 12 areas. Main forest service access trails from the 30s were gone. My comfort zone dissolved over the winter and 10 years of recon was dissolved.

I struggled and found an elk that fall - barely. I started over. I plotted topos, walked trails, reconned basins. Crawled through jungles that no would touch. Slowly I built up my knowledge base of new areas. I put in a remote camp because my new area was 2 hours from home. Our success slowly improved and became predictable but I didn't trust fate and felt what happened once would likely happen again. I got into a habit to recon new areas early in the season when the weather wasn't right but was condusive to long traverses that tied areas together and filled in gaps. I found people that had hunted those areas and pieced info together from other hunters experiences. Sure enough I came back one year and there were new roads and more than half of my area was a wasteland. However this time I had enough recon to be able to adjust.

I moved back to Montana and as my father got too old to hunt I started to develop new areas closer to home. My hunting options are now between 16 - 18. I try to recon two new areas each year early in the season to compensate for losses and the unknown. With the wholesale death of the mature lodgepole stands I spend 10 -15 days cutting out elk trails, cow trails and old forest service/mining trails out for egress. As some of these are miles long I can see the elk start to use portions of them within a week. It's easier to facilitate their travel than it is to figure out where they went.

If you are serious about elk hunting, it requires a serious investment in time and energy.
I can agree with the last sentence.
 
Man that is aspiring! Extremely aspiring! Also I'm sort of envious of you but I guess I can use that envy to fuel my fire even more.

Great post, thanks!
 
The scouting really never ends, I’ve seen changes to my hunting areas in MT, sometimes year to year.

Having plenty of options is critical to success, and relying on just a couple spots is a recipe for frustration.

I have a couple good friends who have depended on some small local areas to hunt that were largely unknown until OnX and reliable GPS technology. Needless to say, they are now feeling like they should’ve invested more time getting to know other areas.

On day or even multi-day hunts, I always have a “plan b” or even a “plan c” in mind, leave early, and hope for “plan a”.

Learning new areas is fun and exciting.

The “Old Faithful” spots are comforting and mostly reliable.
 
I've recently lost my year over year, hard worked / scouted locations due to predators in excess who've altered the ungulate's usual habits.
I've been working on new locations... A PITA though it is what it is and the search for new location(s) continue.
 
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