Football General Talk

[Bonasababy]

The packers GM was talking in his pre draft press conference that the draftees on average are older this year. He tied it to NIL and kids who are not a sure bet are choosing to stay because they get some NIL.

Yep. Also, the transfer portal has really reduced the number of really good unknown "sleeper" players. Small school kids who are good largely enter the portal and move to bigger schools. Some kids have played for 3 teams before they get drafted.

 

[Bonasababy]

I don't know about men in the football teams.But women basketball players.I think make quite a bit more in college than they do professionally.

And we all know that they aren't being paid for meet and greets. They're being paid as a way for guys with loads of cash to become players and hotshots and important people. Now, they just do it over at the table instead of under the table.

WNBA new contract changed the game for women. Only a few schools pay well, and going pro many used to make more playing overseas than in the WNBA. New contract changed that.

NFL has a rookie scale that varies with draft position. By the time you get to the last draft round most prefer to go undrafted as they can make more as an undrafted free agent plus have some control over where they go.

 

[Bonasababy]

I will make one. A lot of them aren't kids. Average age is edging close to 24.

Agree with you on all the post-pick grading. Who the heck knows? This is why coaches don't last. GMs and scouts get some picks wrong and it rolls downhill fast.

The amount of time spent analyzing each pick is incredible, and a lot of tools used for that are widely available to people these days. Theres team fit and coaching and potential and other things involved though. And its really safer to evaluate the whole haul in a draft than one pick.

The Vikings top pick looks better after they added another guy at the same position in the third round, for example. Iowa State kid. And some of their later guys arent well rounded but are really good at certain things, so you can see their likely role.

 

[Gellar]

Yep. Also, the transfer portal has really reduced the number of really good unknown "sleeper" players. Small school kids who are good largely enter the portal and move to bigger schools. Some kids have played for 3 teams before they get drafted.

NCAA is mulling around the idea of changing that. I’ve heard 5 years, regardless, and one free transfer.

 

[Treeshark]

NCAA is mulling around the idea of changing that. I’ve heard 5 years, regardless, and one free transfer.

I hope they make drastic changes- unlimited transfers has turned the whole process into a circus.

 

[Gellar]

I hope they make drastic changes- unlimited transfers has turned the whole process into a circus.

And I bet there is a lot of poaching of athletes going on by coaches and players of other teams.

 

[brocksw]

Finally. Defense. mtmuley

I'm pretty happy with the cowgirls first 3 picks. I thought they might grab Jermod Mccoy in the 3rd round, seems like the type of pick that has been Jerry's MO. But they needed a big bodied LB too, so can't complain.

 

[SAJ-99]

The amount of time spent analyzing each pick is incredible, and a lot of tools used for that are widely available to people these days. Theres team fit and coaching and potential and other things involved though. And its really safer to evaluate the whole haul in a draft than one pick.

I will admit I don’t pay much attention to the draft, although I watched it a little this year. I noticed the NFL now measured players to the 1/8inch. Poor guy that is 5’11 and 7/8in looks different when the other guy is 6’0. Also, huge focus on arm length. I had to look back and see when “arm length” became such an important measurement (started in early 2000’s). The whole thing is crazy with analytics and I’m not sure the “success” rate has gotten any better. Kind of long for the time when some old guys smoking cigars just picked based on some BS “eye-test”.

 

[Treeshark]

Also, huge focus on arm length.

That and hand size seemed to be mentioned a lot this year for line players. Perhaps it always is and I’ve just never noticed it as much, who knows.

 

[mtmuley]

That and hand size seemed to be mentioned a lot this year for line players. Perhaps it always is and I’ve just never noticed it as much, who knows.

I think an athlete is either a football player or not a football player regardless of the analytics. Would be interesting to see how some of the past greats measure up to todays standards. mtmuley