Endangered Grizzly Bear Photo Thread

[shines@times]

vs a Bod Lamb

I knew winmag would reopen the sub-thread with his (her, their ?) comment!

 

[shines@times]

Imo still the king of any ram I've seen. He hasn't been back though for a couple seasons. Last time I saw him his whole left side was gone

just an unbelievable ram....

I'll say! Is he a transplant from Wild Horse Island?

 

[BAKPAKR]

Yeah he was such a stud, I haven’t seen or heard of anyone seeing him the last two winters either. Lion must’ve snuck up on his blind side

I just zoomed in on your avatar and saw what it was. That is awesome.

 

[dgc1963]

Dumb question here what causes the chunks of horn to be broken off on a ram Fighting ? or is it an age thing
I googled it but couldnt find an answer
Maybe age n fighting combination I know some days my body parts feel like they are trying to make an exit

 

[BigHornRam]

Dumb question here what causes the chunks of horn to be broken off on a ram Fighting ? or is it an age thing
I googled it but couldnt find an answer
Maybe age n fighting combination I know some days my body parts feel like they are trying to make an exit

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When you see rams with huge laminations of horn missing or entire horn gone, it's most often due to sinusitis.

 

[dgc1963]

Hey Bighorn thanks for posting the survey I tried to google several times and didnt come up with an answer

 

[Jayce37]

I'll say! Is he a transplant from Wild Horse Island?

Nope!

 

[Jayce37]

I just zoomed in on your avatar and saw what it was. That is awesome.

Haha yeah pretty cool! Got to spend a few hours with him chasing ewes couple years ago

 

[shines@times]

Got to spend a few hours with him chasing ewes couple years ago

Sounds like risky business. I'd be afraid to make that old boy jealous and potentially mad!

 

[recurveman]

Dumb question here what causes the chunks of horn to be broken off on a ram Fighting ? or is it an age thing
I googled it but couldnt find an answer
Maybe age n fighting combination I know some days my body parts feel like they are trying to make an exit

A few years ago, we were watching a few rams and about a dozen ewes on the side of a hill in AZ. The rams were butting heads pretty good so there must have been a hot ewe in the bunch. They finally got in a place where we wanted to put a stalk on one of the rams. After further inspection we noticed that his right horn was now 3/4 gone and the tip of his horn was bright red. When we started watching the rams there were no broken horns. Needless to say that was the ram we wanted to stalk so we didn't even attempt a stalk. His posture also changed dramatically. He could tell something happened because he wouldn't challenge the other ram anymore and was very timid. After about an hour he left to group and went on a walk about.

 

[aballoga]

Not to continue to beat a dead horse but is this 4? Can someone mark up the annuli that get it there?

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That's a generous marking for the base of the horn, didn't realize that's how they mark it. Also the angle manipulates the result drastically, could near make a ewe legal with a string base to tip from the right angle. Move the camera a hair to the right and the string wouldn't touch the eye of this ram. I'd be curious to see a true side on view of this arrangement. The view shown appears in my opinion from a higher and further back point of view than a true side on, and they may have had to do it that way to bisect the eye.

Agreed, I couldn't glass this ram for 4 hrs from 25 yards and come up the thought that pulling the trigger is a good idea. I fear too that leniency introduces the risk of hunters using this as precident or an example of legal, and finding themselves in hot water.

 

[mtnkid85]

Any Hunttalkers headed to Butte this weekend for the MTWSF banquette? Hit me up if you want to have a beer.

 

[BigHornRam]

Any Hunttalkers headed to Butte this weekend for the MTWSF banquette? Hit me up if you want to have a beer.

I'll be there Saturday.

 

[mtnkid85]

Still waiting on the offer from the fall....

Opps... I just texted you. How did that much time pass since hunting season already, lol!?

 

[mountainboat]

Can someone explain to me how the unlimited sheep, generally spending more time in the timber, develop darker horns due to sap? I've seen it mentioned several times here. Do they rub on trees like deer and elk???

 

[TrumpkinTheDwarf]

Yeah and they have one of the sexiest pine scents ever to....

A smell that could only come from a beartooth ram....

Almost ram season!

The ram drew you back in I see. How the heck are ya?

 

[shines@times]

Hey guys, shines@times here, just checking in after an extended absence.

I'm in my fifth week of emptying a building that I sold in Polson Montana and I heard a little bit from locals about a guy getting killed and devoured by griz down in the Absaroka Beartooth country. Since that is our favorite country I figured you guys would be discussing the hell out of the incident, especially in light of all of the grizzly bear discussion that I've seen on the thread the last few months.

My own luck is holding true to course. Coming over from Western Washington I made it to the crest of Lookout Pass with a motorhome in flames (after spending $560 on tires in Kellogg Idaho) got it stopped just under the overpass and decided that wasn't the best place to park a burning vehicle. I drifted down about a hundred yards into Montana. Stopped behind a semi with enough space between us that I would not light him up too.

Thus, I have been in rental vehicles for the last four plus weeks. After I get home, I'll post some photos if anybody is interested. I managed to save my camera but not my 2-day-old cell phone and my almost 12-year-old laptop.

I had to obtain another cell phone in order to rent a U-Haul truck. I'm halfway talking to text and editing best I can; so, if there are any big typos or grammatical errors please excuse.

If there's any silver lining to this cloudy misadventure I guess it's finding out that I've got a little bit more physical ability remaining than I thought I would have. Been working my old butt off for 5 weeks and am modestly encouraged about the prospects for some more outdoor adventures. That is, if the asbestos dust and the mold spores don't kill me first!

May 1st is coming much too soon to consider this year; but hey, 73 is not too old to hunt sheep in the Beartooth Wilderness, right?

 

[YoungGun]

Hey guys, shines@times here, just checking in after an extended absence.

I'm in my fifth week of emptying a building that I sold in Polson Montana and I heard a little bit from locals about a guy getting killed and devoured by griz down in the Absaroka Beartooth country. Since that is our favorite country I figured you guys would be discussing the hell out of the incident, especially in light of all of the grizzly bear discussion that I've seen on the thread the last few months.

My own luck is holding true to course. Coming over from Western Washington I made it to the crest of Lookout Pass with a motorhome in flames (after spending $560 on tires in Kellogg Idaho) got it stopped just under the overpass and decided that wasn't the best place to park a burning vehicle. I drifted down about a hundred yards into Montana. Stopped behind a semi with enough space between us that I would not light him up too.

Thus, I have been in rental vehicles for the last four plus weeks. After I get home, I'll post some photos if anybody is interested. I managed to save my camera but not my 2-day-old cell phone and my almost 12-year-old laptop.

I had to obtain another cell phone in order to rent a U-Haul truck. I'm halfway talking to text and editing best I can; so, if there are any big typos or grammatical errors please excuse.

If there's any silver lining to this cloudy misadventure I guess it's finding out that I've got a little bit more physical ability remaining than I thought I would have. Been working my old butt off for 5 weeks and am modestly encouraged about the prospects for some more outdoor adventures. That is, if the asbestos dust and the mold spores don't kill me first!

May 1st is coming much too soon to consider this year; but hey, 73 is not too old to hunt sheep in the Beartooth Wilderness, right?

The incident I believe you're referring to was in 6 mile, on the *east side of the Paradise Valley. I'm sure there were other threads where it was discussed, but it didn't make it on this thread, which I'm personally okay with since there's other forums that it is more applicable to than Unlimited Sheep. 170 pages and counting- we're bound to get off topic while awaiting the upcoming season.

 

[buffybr]

... May 1st is coming much too soon to consider this year; but hey, 73 is not too old to hunt sheep in the Beartooth Wilderness, right?

Bummer about your trip back from Idaho...

I did most of my Unlimited sheep hunting in the '80s and '90s when I was in my 40s and 50s, AND I had my own horses for many of those hunts.

But, I was 71 when I did my Dagestan Tur hunt in Azerbaijan, and those mountains were steeper and more rugged than any of my sheep hunts here at home, and in Canada.

I did my last Unlimited sheep hunt in 1999 and decided to just apply for one of the draw units and hope for a tag for a monster. Last month I was at my taxidermist's shop and Fred King was there scoring a 180 1/8" ram that a local 81 year old gentleman had shot last year in the Spanish Peaks on a DIY hunt with his son and grandson.

That shows that there's still hope for us geezers.

 

[Gerald Martin]

What are you talking about this is Hunt Talk we run a tight ship here.

There's only one site in the world where you can talk about Why do people drink ginger ale? Setup potential cage fights between members on a mule deer forum, talk, about, the, usage, of, Oxford, commas. AND talk about dink rams people pay the MTFWP off to keep quiet about it.

#blessed2participate

You forgot #tacobus.