Attack on the Feds independence

I agree, the problem is as you can see in this thread the far left and far right are set in there ways and neither are willing to compromise its partisan politics and it isn't going away. Unfortunately
The constitution and our rights arent a right or left thing!
 
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The constitution and our rights arent a right or left thing!
Oh really not sure what world you live in but I have seen both sides try attack the constitution and our rights it just depends if you have your blinders on or not to be able to acknowledge it
 
Oh really not sure what world you live in but I have seen both sides try attack the constitution and our rights it just depends if you have your blinders on or not to be able to acknowledge it
Dont disagree that you can find examples from both sides...do disagree with anyone using that to justify it.
 
The boot lickers are skipping the licking and going right to the swallowing.

Tread on me daddy!
Tread on thee as long as it’s not me!
 
Freedom is the most important thing to me. I spend my days quoting “those who would sacrifice a little freedom for safety deserve neither”. I got a Molon Labe tattoo, daring the government to even think about infringing on my rights.

That’s why when the federal agent who’s never been to my neighborhood before asks for a government issued ID, I always produce it.
 
Right now, just heard that black MN police officers were stopped by ICE here. Probably have a link before long.

Hard to imagine probable cause to detain a LEO.
Ok the link isnt going to work so will quote our local regional newspaper on this. Involves an officer of color from the Brooklyn Park MN police department...after she drove past ICE agents.


"When they boxed her in, they demanded to see her paperwork...of which shes aUS citizen, and clearly would not have any paperwork"

The chief said when the officer tried to record the interaction, they knocked her phone from her hands.

Only after she identified herself as a peace officer...which is a violation of policy, did they leave...with no explanation or apology.

The chief said he has heard of similar ICE encounters with other off duty officers from other departments.
 
What is the reasonable and acceptable course of action to correct for where we are?

Suppose you take the extremist position that unfettered illegal immigration is indeed detrimental to society at large.

My first choice would be offering plane tickets and a commercial flight to your home country. If only....
 
I get super tan and has been asks by border patrol when I lived in Tucson what country I was from. He didn’t believe me and asked to see my id not a big deal I don’t understand why that should be an issue and not wasting an officers times. Ow ya that was back in 06 this isn’t anything new
You consented.

I would have asked for what reasonable suspicion do you have for asking for my ID. If they couldn't provide one, have a nice day!
 
All immigrants are protected under the constitution and are allowed due process. Not to be rounded up by nazis and sent to “the camps” in Florida, Texas and El Salvador
 
All immigrants are protected under the constitution and are allowed due process. Not to be rounded up by nazis and sent to “the camps” in Florida, Texas and El Salvador
How many Jews did the nazis kill again?

Also, where do you get off calling ice agents nazis? You think they're remotely comparable? I thought illegals were being sent home. I didn't know they were murdering them.
 
Elaborate. What does that look like to someone with a political POV like you have.
Sigh...AGAIN...

There is no legitimate political view of our rights. Politics plays NO role.

You are free to disagree with them and challenge them in court, or start the very difficult (blame the founders of this country for that) process of amending our constitution.
 
Curious how you felt when Obama spent 18 billion on ice alone?
That was more than a decade ago. Did you want to go so far back and discuss what country destabilized South America and the Middle East. Causing the immigration problem
 
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