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Rainer
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With Stevey Y's job on the line, I don't think the Wild have the assets to get Larkin. I also don't think he'll end up in Colorado or Vegas. The leak was he wants to play in the playoffs.... he would fit in as a #2 in Montreal real well. The Habs also have something like 18 million in cap space.
It'll be interesting to if the Rangers are also shopping Trocheck and Lafreniere
It'll be interesting to if the Rangers are also shopping Trocheck and Lafreniere
I don’t see him going to canadia, being he can veto any team. He’s real close with Quinn. It’d be a good package, but you’re getting a known commodity for a team looking to win in the next 4-5 years. He fits the Wild’s team building timeline well. We’ll see.
grizzly63
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Still hoping for 7 games, the ending of that last one left things to be desired. Were talking pure puck luck. Id rather see skilled points earned. Throw towards the net, never know what will happen.
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We're not denying he's not a fit for the Wild. But the Wild don't have the prospects, draft picks and salary room for him. They need to fill 8 roster spots with 12 million in cap space.
I know, but I don’t think that’s going to stop Billy G from trying his damndest to try to make it happen.
Think Stevie Y is leaking all of this stuff?
I think he ends up in FLA or MIN on a relative discount/short term.
SAJ-99
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How could it be short term discount? He has 5 more years at $8.7m AAV.
It isn't a surprise that he picked those teams. He wants to win. I don't think there is even a debate about 'fit'. The problem is good teams all face the same problem - their talent cost money and there is a salary cap. Florida is in the same situation as the Wild and Vegas is in a worse situation. They all have to get rid of someone to make cap space to get Larkin and while still filling the other slots. I'm sure some GM will make it work, maybe Guerin. But I stick to my view that the Wild had a depth problem and adding Larkin and a bunch of bums on minimum contracts probably doesn't fix that.
Yeah I’m an idiot, didn’t realize he had 5 years left!
SAJ-99
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It’s a reasonable amount for him, but hard to absorb for a team that is already good without it dealing away some assets. Red Wings need to decide if they are going full rebuild. If they do, the other two teams can look at Debrincat.
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Hell, the Redwings in reality don't have to do anything. They have the right to keep him until the end of his contract, If he doesn't like it they can bury him in the AHL for 5 years. Something is going on with Team USA now. Larkin, Hellebuyck and Tkachuk all now want out of their contracts. If I was a GM I wouldn't want them on my team, they have no commitment
Wildabeest
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Go Canes!
SAJ-99
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Wild signed McCarron for 6yrs $20m ($3.3m per). Term seems long for a 31yo journeyman, but the money is flowing this offseason.
seeth07
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That is so bad. All projections had him at a 2 to 3 year deal worth 2mil. What the heck happened
SAJ-99
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Holes to fill and a paper-thin UFA market on July 1? Sign the guy you know and figure if it doesn’t work out the next guy will have to worry about the term.
seeth07
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In the end, he still is just a 4th line center. Something we didn't really need. Sturm/Trenin are already perfect for that. The wild dont have that many holes to fill, not sure why you keep saying that. Don't need a goalie, dont need a single person on D. 13.5mil to spend, need a top line center and 4-6 wingers in total. Brink at little cost as a RFA should be one.
Wildabeest
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Heading to Raleigh tomorrow. Looks like I’m back in Vegas on Sunday. Hopefully for a Canes Cup cele 
SAJ-99
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Puckpedia says you have 19 of 23 slots filled on active roster. Maybe I am missing something? You have quite a few guys now UFAs that you probably don't want to resign.
Everyone wants/needs a top line center/wing. I don't think Wild (or Knights or Panthers for that matter) have the assets to give the Redwings for Larkin, but Redwings are dumb. They might take a goalie and some picks from Wild. They gave up a lot of top prospects to get Hughes so that didn't help. I agree on the D, but the 3rd D pair showed itself in the playoffs. And that was with Hughes and Faber both getting 30+ mins. Improvements can be made but they need to be made with value and depth in mind.
Yes, not signing N Foligno, JoJo signed in Sweden yesterday, Fabbri, Petry. That leaves decisions on Zuccy, Bogo, Tarasenko and Brink.
I'd let Haight take one of those spots on Line 3. He's ready. Sign Zuccy, only if he's willing to come back on a big pay cut. Brink is a RFA, so he'll be on the cheap. Tarasenko's struggles at three prior stops has shown he's very system-dependent, so not sure how much they'd need to offer him. He's most valuable in the Wild system, but some dumbass GM will possibly offer him $5+million to play elsewhere. If so, "Thanks for your service, Vlady. Good luck."
Trading Gus, maybe even the oft-injured Brodin, before next year's trade deadline would give them a lot of space to add a 1C for a playoff push, assuming they lose out on the 1C market this summer. I agree that they likely have too little to offer for Larkin as 1C. I think that is part of why Shooter signed Mac at the price he did, given his weakest link is center. But, maybe Detroit buries the idiot needle, though Yzerman is not known for being immediately accommodating to player requests.
Without Larkin they can easily fill those other slots with their cap space. And trades of Gus, Brodin, Hartman, M Foligno, or Middleton (someone please take him for "future considerations") would free up a lot. Add in the salary cap increase in coming years, they will be able to make it fit with a Hughes extension, and if Larkin were to somehow fall in their lap.
Shooter likes guys who are running on empty, so if he has to, he'll add some of those older guys to fill slots until the farm team talent is ready (if ever Iowa can develop them) and he'll tell everyone how "He's a glue guy" even when the dude needs a four hour massage prior to the morning skate. Comes with the territory when Guerin is your GM.
I think everyone is fair game for trades, other than Ek, KK, Boldy, Hughes, Faber, and Wallstedt. Spurgeon will not get traded while on his final year, as Shooter is loyal to his guys. Everyone else would be trade bait if I was GM, so long as they didn't have a NMC.
Only having Brink to show for all the capital they sent to Columbus for the Jiricek trade is killing them in the battle for a 1C. Shooter owns that one. A Larkin deal falling in his lap would bail him out from that embarrassing trade.
seeth07
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That isnt a lot, especially when the free agent loss doesnt contain any core players except one - zuccy. And I dont see him leaving, they have 9.4 mil left and 3.5mil will go to him for the next two years. There are teams needing to fill twice as many slots and some with less cap space.
Our bottom D with Middleton and Hunt/Nyberg is just fine. I hate how everyone that likely didn't watch the whole season or even the Dallas series for that matter is pounding on Middleton for one bad series. He had a solid year and is a great defender and no issue as a third pair.
