I was reading about your experiences with your son on muzzleloader hunts and video of the hunts. It is wonderful you are sharing the experiences only a father/son hunt can produce, and you will have lifelong memories about those hunts. I have hunted with a group of fellas on muzzleloader hunts to Manitoba Canada for whitetails, and most of us have used smokeless Savage ML 10 muzzleloaders. We have had no problems with accuracy, and have taken three deer at distances of 200 to 210 yards. At first we tried various loads, powders and bullets, until Savage told us what other hunters were using with great success. A high success rate followed on our annual hunts to Manitoba, even with wide temperature swings of from minus 20 to a high of 70 degrees. In our preparation, we discovered the Hornady SSt 250 grain bullets, which we used were not penetrating more than 1 inch into 2 inch wooden planks at 250 yards, so we restricted any shot distance on a deer to 210 yards or less. We used Accurate #5744 powder and we got the bullet plastic sabots for 50 cal muzzleloaders from Muzzleload Magnum Products in Arkansas. The reason I am telling you this is the wonderful view you will have of your shots to video, without having to deal with the blackpowder smoke screen. I know these guns are no longer in production, and there are many stories reported of dangers of this type/kind of muzzleloader for various reasons, however we have not had any problems and have had these guns for almost 15 years, have shot hundreds of rounds, and have taken buck in the 150 to 165 class, with very few cripples, which were not recovered. On one trip about 10 years ago, my eldest son flew into Winnipeg, and out of 10 hunters on the plane, 7 had the Savage ML10. I hope this info is helpful for you and son using muzzleloaders for big game hunts, and wish you many years of success in the field with your son. BearmagnetI have been having fun posting semi-live hunts the last few years. For me, this has been a very fun way to keep a running summary of the hunts. First year was father son elk hunt in Colorado, then a semi-live TX draw hunt for whitetail and last year was my son’s Utah youth draw elk hunt. While those were fun, I feel they missed some of the best parts. I am going to start early this year and try and document our hunts a bit better to show a bigger picture.
This year the draws have been very good to us. First, I drew a NM unit 15 muzzleloader bull tag for Nov hunt. This could turn out to be a very fun hunt and my son is going with me. However, my son (Christian) was also able to draw a Colorado unit 201 muzzleloader cow hunt and a unit 201 muzzleloader bear tag. Mama Bear has already agreed to let my son do both hunts so this is going to be a very fun year. He is a straight “A” student and has made the academic honor roll for the last two years.
During Christian’s Utah hunt, the elk were not supper vocal. He even asked about all my archery stories of calling elk in. He had grand visions of huge bulls running into our calls and quickly learned that is not always the way it works out, I did call a few elk into him…including a cow and calf to about 10 feet. However, he didn’t get to see great rutting action. I believe a rut hunt in 201 will be different and we will have a blast
Christian took his big game animal ever (a Florida whitetail) with a muzzleloader but we really need to get him ready for a muzzleloader elk hunt. He has grown about a foot since last year and all his swim training Is getting him stronger. I am sure most parents will agree that it is amazing just how quick they grow.
We have set up a training regimen for the muzzleloader and he is shooting his bow a lot more. His goal is to archery elk hunt but I have told him he can’t archery hunt until he can shoot comfortably to 50 yard and I really want him shooting 60lbs. He currently shooting 55 labs and can shoot to 30 yards really well. We are shooting every two weeks with the muzzleloader and twice a week with his bow.
A Muzzleloader range day…
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Christian is almost 5’10” now and he is shooting 3inch groups at 50 yards now. He is going to be shooting a Knight Disk Extreme .50 caliber with 56 grn (by weight) BH209 and 460 grn No Excuse conicals.
For NM…new toy for me…
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I got a Knight Ultra-Lite .45 caliber in a Nitride finish. I have been working on load development and… View attachment 187493
The bottom is a 3 shot hundred yard group shooting 300 grn Arrowhead XLD bullet over 82 grns (by weight) BlackHorn 209 with CCI Mag 209 primers. I am using a Leupold VX5 2-10 scope. The top group is after a quick scope adjustment and is a 9 shot 100 yard group.
I think that gets us caught up for the season so far…
Christian and I are having a blast getting ready for the season. He is really liking the range days and I think the time with him is awesome. He keeps trying to talk me into stops at Coldstone on the way home from the range and it works about once a month. I really feel the prep and excitement for the hunt is a huge part. Just want to try and capture the whole process.
More to come..