Wyoming PAC

[BuzzH]

What I read is this seems like people who are outfitters trying to save their jobs?

Don't think so. Outfitters have been pushing for either outfitter set aside tags or transferable LO tags for the last decade.

Makes no sense that this PAC is opposed to set aside tags and your false claim of ties to outfitters.

 

[Rack Daniels]

your false claim of ties to outfitters.

Just to be clear I appreciate what these guys are doing. Keep public lands in public hands. But I think this is where the claim came from…

 

[BuzzH]

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Just to be clear I appreciate what these guys are doing. Keep public lands in public hands. But I think this is where the claim came from…

Right, you clown. He guides climbers...not hunters.

Maybe try with the comprehension on this time. One would think with the facts and information at our/your fingertips people would research first before making outlandish claims. Rather than show support for those not just typing on a keyboard, nope, lets just look to discredit.

Sad really, and its amazing that even on an issue like corner crossing the naysayers just had to sling chit every chance they got. Even after a win at the Supreme court, the naysayers are still flinging poo.

Unbelievable and no wonder hunters can never move the needle and/or have a hard time doing so.

Zach Lentsch​

As the son of a game warden, one of my first memories as a child was getting stuck in a blizzard while elk hunting near Lost Lake in the Bighorns. I've been an avid outdoorsman ever since and I've had the privilege of hunting, fishing, and exploring the great state of Wyoming my entire life. I am also the owner of Wyoming Mountain Guides, a climbing guiding company based in Cody. Both as a Wyomingite who is deeply in love with the wild parts of this state, and as a business owner whose livelihood depends on good stewardship of the places we guide, I abhor politicians' attempts to privatize our public lands and wildlife. Our leaders need to be held to a higher standard of protecting these invaluable resources so my kid can grow up in a wild Wyoming like I did.

 

[Rack Daniels]

Right, you clown. He guides climbers...not hunters.

Maybe try with the comprehension on this time.

You could have just said “he guides climbers, not hunters.”

Lol but I do understand your frustration…

Like I said. Public lands public hands. Just trying to help.

 

[Straight Arrow]

Public lands public hands. Just trying to help.

Read and learn. Donate and quietly support.

 

[Forkyfinder]

Read and learn. Donate and quietly support.

It was a harmless and helpful observation that spread correct understanding against existing misunderstanding.

Have another cup of coffee and take a dump or something.

 

[Straight Arrow]

Have another cup of coffee and take a dump or something.

Thank-you very much for your learned explanation. May you experience less stress in the new year.
'Just took a dump ... 'thinking of you.

 

[Forkyfinder]

'Just took a dump .

Glad it cheered you up

 

[BuzzH]

You could have just said “he guides climbers, not hunters.”

Lol but I do understand your frustration…

Like I said. Public lands public hands. Just trying to help.

Fair point.

You could have also done some research.

 

[WesternWyoming]

Yay for these hardy souls!!! This is a David and Goliath situation in Wyoming. I have been volunteering to protect habitat and our wildlife for over two decades, at the state and federal levels. It takes courage and stamina and a lot of hope. It takes long hours of research and political savvy. Sometimes it seems that few care enough to do the hard labor to make a difference. These guys have heart and passion. That will take them far when facing the incredibly difficult headwinds that will try to flatten them. I don’t have much to give them but I’m totally with them. Give them a hand boys, they deserve it!

 

[Gellar]

Yay for these hardy souls!!! This is a David and Goliath situation in Wyoming insert state name here. I have been volunteering to protect habitat and our wildlife for over two decades, at the state and federal levels. It takes courage and stamina and a lot of hope. It takes long hours of research and political savvy. Sometimes it seems that few care enough to do the hard labor to make a difference. These guys have heart and passion. That will take them far when facing the incredibly difficult headwinds that will try to flatten them. I don’t have much to give them but I’m totally with them. Give them a hand boys, they deserve it!

That same thing could be said in all 50 states. Thank you for your service.

 

[Caseknife]

Donation made. We need to stick together and help in any way possible to keep public lands public no matter where.

 

[Johnny Bravo]

Don't think so. Outfitters have been pushing for either outfitter set aside tags or transferable LO tags for the last decade.

Makes no sense that this PAC is opposed to set aside tags and your false claim of ties to outfitters.

Thanks for the extra details…I wish them the best of luck as dealing with any political battle is uphill.

 

[BuzzH]

Thanks for the extra details…I wish them the best of luck as dealing with any political battle is uphill.

Agreed, and even more so when those you're trying to help throw you under the bus.

 

[BigHornRam]

I have never donated a dime to a PAC or a politician in my life to this point. Don't see me changing my ways going forward, either. If I was considering changing my mind, and donating to this PAC, I would want to see how they spent their money first.

 

[SAJ-99]

That same thing could be said in all 50 states.

I'm not sure it is the same. Certainly I see vast differences between WY and WA. But it does highlight my main concern - are state-based organizations more effective than a national organization? (I can see from other posts that opinions are varied). Most of the public land is Federal and a lot of the work will need to be done in DC. I can see positives and negatives to each approach. As I have said, the risk now isn't much a wholesale transfer but small pieces being given away or sold with less publicity. Maybe these guys can focus on local sales, but a national org would seem to have more power to leverage? (typical economist response - one hand...on the other hand).

I love to see younger guys get involved in this, so I support the group whole heartedly. I also like that they started the PAC early and not as a reaction to an election when people are exhausted by the political noise. They seem to be focused on the primary right now and getting the right candidates. At least this is the time to start getting candidates "on the record" regarding the hot button issues. Hopefully they get some assistance in broadcasting the message to a wider audience (maybe on a podcast @Big Fin ...wink wink). It will be interesting to see how much progress they make.

 

[Jbotto]

Thanks for sharing this one Buzz! Donated!

 

[Straight Arrow]

are state-based organizations more effective than a national organization?

It depends on the issue(s). Federal lands management, sales, PLT, and such are more effectively dealt with by the national organizations, but sometimes with influential input from states. Issues such as FWP conservation easements in Montana, state fish & game policies and laws, state trust land management, wildlife management, and more state local issues are usually more effectively dealt with by state organizations. Montana's legislature, FWP agency & commission, land board, and other authorities typically don't seriously entertain input from outside the state, but do listen to sportsmen groups, outfitter groups, state wildlife advocacies, Montana Sportsmen's Alliance, and other such Montana organizations ... and yes, to include UPOM (United Property Owners of Montana).

 

[elkduds]

Thrilled to support this. @BuzzH , thanks for posting.

 

[ashersdad]

Hunting-wise, Wyoming has treated me better than any other state, including my home state of Oregon. I'm happy to support any initiative that helps preserve public lands and wildlife in Wyoming.