Wolves delisting imminent

[Deleted member 28227]

The way it is looking, your rivers in Colorado might be saved. Soon. mtmuley

So then the wolves ate all the elk... wait elks or elk. I think it’s elk, anyway.

Then and this is the best part, since all the elk were gone the willows grew back.

And then guess what....

 

[mtmuley]

So then the wolves ate all the elk... wait elks or elk. I think it’s elk, anyway.

Then and this is the best part, since all the elk were gone the willows grew back.

And then guess what....

What? And I live where there are plenty of wolves. I'm ready. mtmuley

 

[Deleted member 28227]

What? And I live where there are plenty of wolves. I'm ready. mtmuley

Beavers!!!!!

 

[VikingsGuy]

Well see there are lots of willows, well were... the elk ate all them.

Cause there were so many elk. So then there weren’t any beaver or coyotes... and then

Ahh, when either (a) my land in MN is teeming with elk; or (b) my wolves can take an Uber to Yellowstone and help the streams there I will reconsider my position.

 

[mtmuley]

Beavers!!!!!

And then? mtmuley

 

[BigHornRam]

Looks like wllm has broke out the primo stash tonight!

 

[Deleted member 28227]

And then? mtmuley

So then the beavers built damns and their little house things, lodges?? And these made the rivers all windy.

 

[VikingsGuy]

So then the beavers built damns and their little house things, lodges?? And these made the rivers all windy.

will the ultra-runners let me trap the beavers and make gloves?

 

[mtmuley]

So then the beavers built damns and their little house things, lodges?? And these made the rivers all windy.

I'm old and worked hard all day. The point of wolves is.....? mtmuley

 

[Dave N]

@JohnCushman must be sleeping! Missing his point of view here.

 

[Deleted member 28227]

will the ultra-runners let me trap the beavers and make gloves?

So then after the river was windy the river was saved, and like then the coyotes had beavers for food and the birds came back and then eagles.

 

[VikingsGuy]

We need a Disney movie targeted at ultra-runners where the most lovable character is a white tailed deer and then they will toss those evil wolves to the curb like a bad habit.

 

[Dave N]

We need a Disney movie targeted at ultra-runners where the most lovable character is a white tailed deer and then they will toss those evil wolves to the curb like a bad habit.

Would the deer have a friend? Maybe, a rabbit?

 

[Deleted member 28227]

I'm old and worked hard all day. The point of wolves is.....? mtmuley

The point is that we all are in favor of conservation and intact ecosystems, but wildlife management issues are complex especially as humans increasingly encroach on habitat throughout the west.

Wolf management like that off all other species should be done by the states, and using the best available science, while at the same time acknowledging the realities of the landscape and our interactions with them.

Viral videos should not drive nuanced policy discussions, biologist should.

 

[mtmuley]

The point is that we all are in favor of conservation and intact ecosystems, but wildlife management issues are complex especially as humans increasingly encroach on habitat throughout the west.

Wolf management like that off all other species should be done by the states, and using the best available science, while at the same time acknowledging the realities of the landscape and our interactions with them.

Viral videos should not drive nuanced policy discussions, biologist should.

Yep. I get your point. But, some places there are wolves don't have any rivers. mtmuley

 

[VikingsGuy]

Would the deer have a friend? Maybe, a rabbit?

Good catch, but (a) apparently not as cute and relatable as brother bear; and (b) the hunter was the bad guy, we need it to be a wolf.

 

[SAJ-99]

If just snarky, then haha. But if serious, I don't see any legal reason CO can't protect various species not covered by ESA within its own borders for its own reasons - no SCOTUS needed.

A little of both. Point being, be careful what you wish for.

 

[VikingsGuy]

Ahh, when either (a) my land in MN is teeming with elk; or (b) my wolves can take an Uber to Yellowstone and help the streams there I will reconsider my position.

Even a better plan - CO agrees to take my extra wolves to start the program and I agree to help the initiative by submitting thousands of bonus mail-in ballots voting yes!

 

[Deleted member 28227]

Yep. I get your point. But, some places there are wolves don't have any rivers. mtmuley

Apparently you guys need a beer and I need to work on my boulder ultra runner impression.

 

[SAJ-99]

I am missing a few steps in logic, how does having too many wolves in my county (to the extent that they depopulate whitetails to historic lows and turn on every other thing walking the land for an alternate source of food) help Yellowstone. Do tell, as I want to do my PL best.

Historic lows? How far back are we counting here? Asking for a friend.