When SHTF

Actually never stepped foot into the place. Tahoe was a target rich environment and not far away. long time ago in my 20's. mtmuley
50+ years ago I drove for an outfit based in Winnemucca. If you got stuck waiting for a load they would buy you dinner and a beer at one of the establishments in the Circle. I never played touchy feely but hanging out at the bar was really fun and entertaining. The old gal that ran the place was always good for a couple jokes.
 
Interesting thoughts about SHTF. Friends and I discuss it regularly. We are all well armed but that won't matter as much as food water and shelter. Living in CA, theres 40 million people...

Most of them will never make it out of the city if there is a complete breakdown of society - worst case scenario. After 30 days the population would be down 50%, 2-3 months 75%. Roads will be jammed, people will use bridges as choke points or as mentioned earlier some will take them out. So most won't make it out of the city imo. Those who do are in for a rude awakening when they meet the hill people. Surviving without shelter would be impossible for most long term above 3000' here. Game animals would be gone in a month unless protected by local people.

Im past the hill people, in the mtns where theres plenty of resources for those wise enough to see it. Leafy green dandelions, acorns, small and large game, while they last. Then gardening and fish would be the other lifeline. None would be easy. Hardest thing is procuring food and water while fending off the less prepared and those with bad intentions.

If the apocalypse is nuclear the issues get even worse as food and water will be contaminated. Without prior stored food and water, no one would survive long.

Biggest lesson is this - are you prepping for yourself or someone else? If its nuclear, better have a bunker with water, food, and clean air for up to 25 years ready to go. Pretty much what the billionaires and corrupt gov officials with their "continuity" plans have set up with the people's stolen money.
 
I feel like most of you have never been to a densely populated 3rd world country. Humans are sooo much more resilient and adaptable than you give us/them credit for.
 
Interesting thoughts about SHTF. Friends and I discuss it regularly. We are all well armed but that won't matter as much as food water and shelter. Living in CA, theres 40 million people...

Most of them will never make it out of the city if there is a complete breakdown of society - worst case scenario. After 30 days the population would be down 50%, 2-3 months 75%. Roads will be jammed, people will use bridges as choke points or as mentioned earlier some will take them out. So most won't make it out of the city imo. Those who do are in for a rude awakening when they meet the hill people. Surviving without shelter would be impossible for most long term above 3000' here. Game animals would be gone in a month unless protected by local people.

Im past the hill people, in the mtns where theres plenty of resources for those wise enough to see it. Leafy green dandelions, acorns, small and large game, while they last. Then gardening and fish would be the other lifeline. None would be easy. Hardest thing is procuring food and water while fending off the less prepared and those with bad intentions.

If the apocalypse is nuclear the issues get even worse as food and water will be contaminated. Without prior stored food and water, no one would survive long.

Biggest lesson is this - are you prepping for yourself or someone else? If its nuclear, better have a bunker with water, food, and clean air for up to 25 years ready to go. Pretty much what the billionaires and corrupt gov officials with their "continuity" plans have set up with the people's stolen money.
Walton Goggins by a nose.
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Long term loss of grid power, societal/financial collapse, and nuclear war seem more likely these days than they have previously to me. Can take some less than huge steps to prepare for the first couple, the hell if i'd waste time preparing for nuclear war.

People lose access to power everywhere for an extended period of time, things could get ugly real quick.

I've done not a damned thing to prepare for any of it. Should get some of the big tubs of water and more non-perishable food though.. Ammo is not a concern.
 
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