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What is a wolf lover?

I am a wolf lover.

Amazing animals that a nation brought back from the brink and now states manage. Wolves are a conservation success story, a political horror story and the nightmares of angry dudes everywhere,

The world would be poorer without them. & the internet would be much quieter without them.

Fantastic trophy MT. :)
 
I've been at this wolf issue for a long time. I even had discussions with my dad (when he was alive). He said the same things that many others have on blog sites. He said he'd shoot everyone, and "We got rid of them for a reason". "Only good wolf is a dead one". So I had heard the rhetoric long before I started visiting with people on these sites.

I don't know if the newbies on this site remember the famous wolf threads we had with BigHornRam. He and I went at it all the time, (with Buzz, Fin, and others). It went so far as he and I betting a case of Coors be that we would be hunting them legally by 2010. I won and BigHorn basically left the site. I never did get that case, and he only lives a couple of miles from me. Some of the discussions got so bad that I got threats from people on those sites. A guy on MM said he was coming through the Root as was going to stop by and kick my a$$. So I posted my cell phone number for him and all to see, and told him to please call before he got here so I could make a point to be home. Never saw that guy on any site again. Maybe a new name.

Wolves are just another big game animal that needs to be managed like all others. I have never deterred from that.

I haven't had as much time to trap this year, but will get out in the AM to look tomorrow.

Great time to be out.

Now, how about more Bison, and a open Griz season.
 
JLS said:
I think you be correct:)

Actually, there are some others. However, they've learned the futility of trying to speak with facts and reality vs. emotional rhetoric.
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Yes...there are at least a few of us that get the cordial treatment of being labeled wolf lovers over there :D
 
It's interesting how people that will label one as a wolf lover are oftentimes people that have little or no knowledge of the wolf. People that don't even live or hunt in wolf country seem to be the worst sometimes. I'll admit I would be happy if the wolf had never appeared in my neck of the woods. But, it has, and I'm dealing with it. mtmuley
 
I supported the re-introduction of wolves to Yellowstone back in the late eighties.I actually have always liked wolves ,and still do.They belong in Montana/Wyoming as much as the grizzly and mountain lion.That all being said, I still support aggressive management through hunting/trapping.I personally have no desire to kill one, yet could care less about the next guy.What i do find irritating is rabid hate for the wolf,the same folks that hate the Sierra Club,hate wilderness, hate non-motorized trails, and hate anybody that thinks outside a box.Good grief.
 
I spoke in favor of the reintroduction of wolves to YNP. Not a popular position among the crowd I run in.
But I also at the time trusted the endangered species act to function. It did not.
I helped bring to Ted Lyon's attention the problems we were having getting wolves delisted. His book about what he learned and did to help the politics of delisting just came out in print.

Ted Lyons book cover.jpg

http://www.amazon.com/The-Real-Wolf-Economics-Co-Existing/dp/159152122X
It is an interesting read, IMO.

There are always more than one side to every story.

"Life is messy...." Rodney Crowell
 
That's a fairly large one it looks like by the pic. Hard to say with the heavy coats they have now and not knowing how big the guy is holding it. They average about 80 pounds. mtmuley
 
They need to re-introduce the wooly mammoth. It would be fun to manage them like other big game as well. How about the dire wolf?

I know, what about the sabre tooth?
 
mtmuley said:
That's a fairly large one it looks like by the pic. Hard to say with the heavy coats they have now and not knowing how big the guy is holding it. They average about 80 pounds. mtmuley
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You are so far off. The average is 150 pounds easy. And they have 3 litters a year.:rolleyes:

There is a picture of a kill on the wall at Sportsmans Warehouse in Helena. Says 175 pounds!!!
 
175 lbs? That's nuthin. Had a guy over in Idaho tell me of two, one at 225 the other at least 250. Told me with a straight face. Hard for me to keep one. mtmuley
 
Wolves are the nices animals in the whole world....FOR ME TO POOP ON!

.....can't seem to find my cow avitar. Oh well.
MT I wouldn't worrie much about it. Maybe being call a wolf lover will get you off some crazy persons hit list.
 
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I want to get back into hound hunting, but don't like sharing my pets with wolves. I will just have to be careful where I turn loose and try to keep-up with my dog. No different than hunting around highways, roads, and such.

I do plan to go out tomorrow am by Missoula and shoot one. I missed a coyote a few weeks ago in the same area and seen wolf tracks. This weekend was the first time I seen lots of animals moving since last weekend.

I'm not a wolf lover, or one of these guys that think having wolves make the world a better
restored ecosystem. Wolf introduction is the same method used by anti-hunters/greenies as the northern
spotted owl, sage grouse, and other t/e nongame species to stop certain types of recreation and jobs.
 
Wolves were "reintroduced" to limit recreation opportunities and take away jobs?

"Same method"? You lost me on that one as well.
 
To take away hunting opportunities through using wolves to manage big game populations. Sage grouse protection to stop oil/gas development. Spotted owl listing to stop logging in the Pacific northwest. Its so simple even a government bureaucrat could figure it out.
 
mtmiller said:
Wolves were "reintroduced" to limit recreation opportunities and take away jobs?

"Same method"? You lost me on that one as well.
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Yes, introduced the Canadian grey wolf were not native in the lower 48. Only timber, Mexican grey, and red wolves.
 
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