The big 18 and adult things?

Your right. A pension should be a bonus not the deciding financial factor. Most people wont make it at the same place to see a full pension. Lot of places close on people, or they need to move at some point. Look at how many people get career fatigue because they stay just for the pension.
My pension amount will be the equivalent of a $700,000 401 using the 4% rule, including COLA adjusted.
 
My pension amount will be the equivalent of a $700,000 401 using the 4% rule, including COLA adjusted.
1.2 mil and counting. 16 to 21 more to go. No COLA for us. (thats of course if I dont elect to go early or take a cut to set my wife up with more should
something happen to me)
 
Buy a $30,000 pickup and finance it at 11% interest while you’re making $22 per hour.

Move out and get your own apartment at $950 per month and set it up with sweet entertainment system financed with one of those no money down and no payments for 60 days.

Spend the rest of whatever is left over for your phone, food, beer and fuel. Put whatever you can’t cover on high interest credit cards and pay the minimum balance.

Get your girl pregnant and have kids before either of you are financially and emotionally stable.

Complain that the government is keeping you from having your dreams come true.

Or maybe don’t do any of those things in that manner.😏
 
Buy a $30,000 pickup and finance it at 11% interest while you’re making $22 per hour.

Move out and get your own apartment at $950 per month and set it up with sweet entertainment system financed with one of those no money down and no payments for 60 days.

Spend the rest of whatever is left over for your phone, food, beer and fuel. Put whatever you can’t cover on high interest credit cards and pay the minimum balance.

Get your girl pregnant and have kids before either of you are financially and emotionally stable.

Complain that the government is keeping you from having your dreams come true.

Or maybe don’t do any of those things in that manner.😏
When you put it like that I feel really good about myself.
 
Seriously though, recognize that you can’t have everything that you want in life. So figure out what you really want, make a mental and literal list of them in order of priority to you along with your most reasonable understanding of what it takes to achieve or support keeping that priority.

Identify those wants that are incompatible with each other, choose the one you want more and accept the consequences.
 
I’m not sure what to tell an 18 year old. My experience is they’re going to think they’re smarter than you and ignore your suggestions.

For 18 year old man, try not to die or get arrested. Pick a path and try to remain faithful to it. Don’t knock up any chicks.
 
If you are looking at a physical long term job I would look at becoming a lineman. It pays well and offers a fair amount of job security in an a largely uncertain and changing job market. A lot of co-ops still have pensions. It's important to be smart financially and it will make your life much easier, but it will not replace the people and experiences that will make life happier. It looks different for everyone. Remember that it is the people in our lives that bring happiness not things.
Thats what im shooting for but im going to take the first opportunity I get
 
@TrapperJ Don't ever let women come between you and your friends. That one you'll regret ill guarantee it. Women come and go especially ones who will put you in that position.
I dont lol my woman gets along with my friends just well and they do with her but she can be bit of a handful to deal with.
 
I’m not sure what to tell an 18 year old. My experience is they’re going to think they’re smarter than you and ignore your suggestions.

For 18 year old man, try not to die or get arrested. Pick a path and try to remain faithful to it. Don’t knock up any chicks.
Common sense goes along ways and common sense tells me that the guys that are older are gonna have more sense then me and I should probably listen. So far not dead and not arrested and I dont have no pregnant chick's
 
My pension amount will be the equivalent of a $700,000 401 using the 4% rule, including COLA adjusted.
It seems the industry standard is floating around 15-18% for lineman…wish my company was at a match/auto contribute of that rate I’d rather have a 401k so when I leave this earth my kids will have whatever is left
 
Buy a $30,000 pickup and finance it at 11% interest while you’re making $22 per hour.

Move out and get your own apartment at $950 per month and set it up with sweet entertainment system financed with one of those no money down and no payments for 60 days.

Spend the rest of whatever is left over for your phone, food, beer and fuel. Put whatever you can’t cover on high interest credit cards and pay the minimum balance.

Get your girl pregnant and have kids before either of you are financially and emotionally stable.

Complain that the government is keeping you from having your dreams come true.

Or maybe don’t do any of those things in that manner.😏
Okay got it get a new truck a cool apartment and get my lady pregnant 👌 thats the kinda advice I needed 🫡 jk lol doesn't sound like any of that is fun besides the truck maybe
 

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