Some questions regarding the 28 nosler

[CowboyLeroy]

My dad has a ranch hunt in colorado this year, and im going to try to make up a load for his 28. Shots should be short to medium range, but the man out there said you need to be able to anchor an elk because the neighbors aren't going to let you cross over to get your bull if it jumps the fence. The 28 nos is going roughly 1.6 billion fps, so im not worried about expanding at distance my main concern is a bullet that wont turn into dust if he ends up with a close shot.

All that said im looking at suggestions for a heavy bullet to shoot out 1:8 7mm that will quickly incapacitate an elk, but still give a good exit.

Let me know any and all things you've heard or seen.

Thanks.

 

[noharleyyet]

.284 Cal-170gr Hammer HHT® - Hammer Bullets

AT THIS TIME TIPS ARE CONSUMER INSTALLED TIPPING BLOCK INCLUDED WITH EACH ORDER Designed for a minimum twist rate of 1-8", this pure copper lead free Hammer HHT™ will be a great choice for long range hunting with the big 8" twist rifles.

hammerbullets.com

 

[Jnasa]

There are many great options out there. I would either go with a mono or a bonded bullet.

I've used Barnes TSX, TTSX, and LRX to good effect. I haven't taken game with Hammer bullets yet but loaded some for my wife's rifle and they are very accurate. I killed an elk and several deer with Hornady GMX also.

For bonded I used Nosler Accubonds in the past to good effect. There is also the tried and true Partition.

Again there are over a dozen good options out there nowadays.

 

[Wild Bill]

I'd imagine a 175g partition would suffice.

 

[brymoore]

Double lung an elk with a good bullet and it’ll go 50 yards, caliber doesn’t matter. Last elk I shot with a 257 Roberts went 20 yards.

Pick a caliber you can shoot.

 

[WapitiBob]

143 hammers worked well on Elk out of my 7stw which is a twin to the 28. Berger 195's were fantastic. I wouldn't shoot a heavy solid.

 

[88man]

If you want dead right there >>> 195 berger or the 180 berger

 

[Sheltowee]

.284 Cal-170gr Hammer HHT® - Hammer Bullets

AT THIS TIME TIPS ARE CONSUMER INSTALLED TIPPING BLOCK INCLUDED WITH EACH ORDER Designed for a minimum twist rate of 1-8", this pure copper lead free Hammer HHT™ will be a great choice for long range hunting with the big 8" twist rifles.

hammerbullets.com

^this is the way, if your father's rifle is twisted sufficiently. If not, step down to the heaviest HHT it will shoot.

 

[CowboyLeroy]

For the guys suggesting hammers, how deep do you typically see them penetrate before the petals open up and shear off? The reason I ask is because pops likes to punch a bullet dead center in the shoulder and id hate to see a bunch of copper tic tacs not get to the good stuff. thats the only reason I hesitate on hammers vs a tsk/cx/etip type copper bullet

 

[CowboyLeroy]

I'd imagine a 175g partition would suffice.

I didn't know they made a 175 partition. Id considered a big giant a-frame but i hear they can be picky

 

[Sheltowee]

For the guys suggesting hammers, how deep do you typically see them penetrate before the petals open up and shear off? The reason I ask is because pops likes to punch a bullet dead center in the shoulder and id hate to see a bunch of copper tic tacs not get to the good stuff. thats the only reason I hesitate on hammers vs a tsk/cx/etip type copper bullet

I've not measured on anything I've shot, personally, but gel tests I've seen would indicate 3-5". You would still have a .284-wadcutter punching through the thoracic cavity, worst case.

In my experience, the benefit of the Hammers are (1) incredible accuracy (like, neck and neck with/sometimes better than ELD-Ms and SMKs) and (2) ability to push to higher velocities due to lower bearing surfaces than other copper bullets. I don't think you'd go wrong with any of the Barnes, Hornady or Noslers you've listed at short to medium range, I just tend to prefer Hammers.

 

[WapitiBob]

Hammers were nowhere near as accurate as the Berger 195's out of my 7stw or 7prc.