SILENCER/SUPPRESSOR?

[antelopedundee]

I'm seriously considering getting a suppressor for one of my rifles. It's .264 caliber with a diameter of 0.668 at the muzzle and 0.680 about an inch from it. Can anyone suggest a suitable suppressor that would be effective yet easy to remove. If the rifle is canned it's too long to fit into a case for one. It should also be somewhat easy to clean when necessary. Have NFA wait times improved any?

 

[brockel]

You’d have to go 1/2” threading with a 1/2”x5/8” adapter. If you aren’t shortening your barrel then you might struggle to find a case that will fit your rifle with suppressor screwed on but it takes about 5 seconds to remove your suppressor from your barrel. NFA wait times have improved a lot.

 

[It’s Bucky]

What I did was roksett this thread adapter to my 1/2 x28 muzzle, and then just direct thread my 5/8 x 24 suppressor to it. No changing Hub devices, no need for a muzzle device QD system, and working like a charm. Comes with a thread protector too for when your suppressor isn’t on there.

 

[antelopedundee]

You’d have to go 1/2” threading with a 1/2”x5/8” adapter. If you aren’t shortening your barrel then you might struggle to find a case that will fit your rifle with suppressor screwed on but it takes about 5 seconds to remove your suppressor from your barrel. NFA wait times have improved a lot.

Thanks, it's a 26 inch and staying that way.

 

[Forkyfinder]

They all more or less remove the same with a standard direct thread mount. QD mounts, ie keymo, asr, etc arent typically used by most people hunting because they add length, weight, and cost. I like them personally but not overly useful if you dont plan to take it on/off a lot

A lot of cans come with removable mounts that you can change for the various thread sizes/pitches so you could get a 1/2x28 female to put on the suppressor or put an adapter on your barrel like @brockel suggested.

Id really consider shorter than 26" especially if its a "hunting first" rifle.

 

[schmalts]

Can you wait until next spring when the tax stamp is no longer needed and prices drop? I am getting a couple then.

 

[Big Fin]

Can you wait until next spring when the tax stamp is no longer needed and prices drop? I am getting a couple then.

Another option is to go through Silencer Central between now and the end of the year, during which time they will pay for your stamp.

I suspect the turnaround times in January are going to get backed up with all the people waiting until 2026 to purchase and save the $200 stamp.

 

[Gynaroo]

The 200 tax stamp is going to disappear like many have said. 1/1/26. I spoke to a rep at Silencer Central and Capitol Armory (they both have the same model of ship to your door). They expect suppressor approval times to jump substantially once the fee is waived. Similar to when everything went electronic a few years ago. I would do what Randi suggested and find a dealer that is offering a free stamp on a suppressor you want and get it. My last one took less then a week on my family trust.

As for types of cans. The sky is the limit. I look at pew science and sound summit to compare suppressors. Otherwise you get stuck with bro science and that can get expensive. They will only be comparing similar sizes for suppression abilities.

 

[appmtnhntr]

Another option is to go through Silencer Central between now and the end of the year, during which time they will pay for your stamp.

I suspect the turnaround times in January are going to get backed up with all the people waiting until 2026 to purchase and save the $200 stamp.

Not to mention the supply crunch with everyone buying at once…..

I pulled the trigger on a new .30 last week.
Should be ready this week. Wanted it for this season.

 

[antelopedundee]

Not to mention the supply crunch with everyone buying at once…..

I pulled the trigger on a new .30 last week.
Should be ready this week. Wanted it for this season.

So is a .30 the best one to use for a .264 caliber bore or are they more closely matched to bore size?

 

[Sheltowee]

So is a .30 the best one to use for a .264 caliber bore or are they more closely matched to bore size?

A .30-cal suppressor is kind of the do-all and you'd be fine shooting .264 projectiles through. That said, I bought a DeadAir Nomad 30 that I only plan on shooting .264/.257 through. I swapped out the .30-cal end cap with a .264 and the results have been stupid quiet.

 

[Forkyfinder]

A .30-cal suppressor is kind of the do-all and you'd be fine shooting .264 projectiles through. That said, I bought a DeadAir Nomad 30 that I only plan on shooting .264/.257 through. I swapped out the .30-cal end cap with a .264 and the results have been stupid quiet.

Curious - could you perceive a big difference just from the cap change?

 

[schmalts]

Another option is to go through Silencer Central between now and the end of the year, during which time they will pay for your stamp.

I suspect the turnaround times in January are going to get backed up with all the people waiting until 2026 to purchase and save the $200 stamp.

I'm mostly looking at a rimfire model. Unfortunately most don't qualify for the free tax stamp since they are mostly lower price.

 

[appmtnhntr]

So is a .30 the best one to use for a .264 caliber bore or are they more closely matched to bore size?

You'd want to do as above. Find a manufacturer that sells replacement end caps for .264, .223, or whatever else you'd shoot it on.

 

[MO Betta]

Curious - could you perceive a big difference just from the cap change?

Testing has shown 3-4 a decibel reduction at most by throwing a .223 endcap on a .308 bore suppressor on ARs. Every 10 db is a ten-fold increase in intensity - so it's not entirely negligible.

 

[rjthehunter]

Cut that barrel down to 20"-22" I went down to 22" and should have gone shorter. I still gained velocity cutting 2 inches off on a 338.

 

[Sheltowee]

Curious - could you perceive a big difference just from the cap change?

I never shot it with the .30-cal cap. To my understanding, you get a 2-5dB reduction. Not an Earth-shattering amount but also not inconsiderable.

Real talk, though: my borderline OCD would never forgive me for settling on a .30-cal cap only to shoot 25's and 26's through it.

 

[Wind Gypsy]

Most hunting type 30 cal cans will have 5/8" "Hub" direct thread adapters. "Hub" is label for standard threads inside the can that accept either the direct thread barrel interface or any of a slough of muzzle devices to interface with the can.

You put a 1/2" to 5/8" adapter as was mentioned earlier or if your can allows, you can just swap up the hub to one with 1/2" threads rather than 5/8". Swapping the Hub is preferrable to me unless you have other rifles with 5/8" threads. One less case of tolerance stacking.

As far as what suppressors you should be looking at.. Theres a lot of options with different trade offs. From a performance standpoint, length, weight, suppression are probably the 3 biggest factors considered. Ti is a little more forgiving of different chemicals used to clean compared to steel. Steel cans can be more durable, heat up slower, typically less expensive, but heavier.

Some of the best current options balancing suppression, length, and weight: Dead Air Nomad XC, Otter Creek hydrogen S ti (available in 6.5 bore sometimes), and AB Raptor 8. Those options are all roughly 6.5" forward of the muzzle suppressors.
unknown suppressors is a new company with some intriguing options as well. Their OG model is an 8" suppressor but 4" of that goes around the barrel and 4" is in front of the barrel so it might be a nice option if you're wanting to keep a long barrel. They wont suppress quite as well as the 6"+ in front of the barrel cans.

In regards to 6.5 vs 30 cal suppressors, i'd get a 30 cal one personally to be more versatile. Bore size impact on suppression seems to vary based on application. IIRC, thunderbeast claimed roughly 2 db difference between their 6.5 and 30 cal ultra 7 cans when using 6.5 and smaller cartridges.

In general - the more powder burning, the more volume in a suppressor needed to suppress. What cartridge are you looking for?

 

[antelopedundee]

Most hunting type 30 cal cans will have 5/8" "Hub" direct thread adapters. "Hub" is label for standard threads inside the can that accept either the direct thread barrel interface or any of a slough of muzzle devices to interface with the can.

You put a 1/2" to 5/8" adapter as was mentioned earlier or if your can allows, you can just swap up the hub to one with 1/2" threads rather than 5/8". Swapping the Hub is preferrable to me unless you have other rifles with 5/8" threads. One less case of tolerance stacking.

As far as what suppressors you should be looking at.. Theres a lot of options with different trade offs. From a performance standpoint, length, weight, suppression are probably the 3 biggest factors considered. Ti is a little more forgiving of different chemicals used to clean compared to steel. Steel cans can be more durable, heat up slower, typically less expensive, but heavier.

Some of the best current options balancing suppression, length, and weight: Dead Air Nomad XC, Otter Creek hydrogen S ti (available in 6.5 bore sometimes), and AB Raptor 8. Those options are all roughly 6.5" forward of the muzzle suppressors.
unknown suppressors is a new company with some intriguing options as well. Their OG model is an 8" suppressor but 4" of that goes around the barrel and 4" is in front of the barrel so it might be a nice option if you're wanting to keep a long barrel. They wont suppress quite as well as the 6"+ in front of the barrel cans.

In regards to 6.5 vs 30 cal suppressors, i'd get a 30 cal one personally to be more versatile. Bore size impact on suppression seems to vary based on application. IIRC, thunderbeast claimed roughly 2 db difference between their 6.5 and 30 cal ultra 7 cans when using 6.5 and smaller cartridges.

In general - the more powder burning, the more volume in a suppressor needed to suppress. What cartridge are you looking for?

I'd be putting it on a 6.5-06 Ackley improved. As long as it's easily removed and re-attached I don't care about weight or length. My "hunting" will be primarily from a stand or the hood of my truck.
Also I'd prefer if possible to have it unfinished titanium to match stainless steel as opposed to cerakote.

 

[Wind Gypsy]

I'd be putting it on a 6.5-06 Ackley improved. As long as it's easily removed and re-attached I don't care about weight or length. My "hunting" will be primarily from a stand or the hood of my truck.
Also I'd prefer if possible to have it unfinished titanium to match stainless steel as opposed to cerakote.

A higher volume can for a cartridge like that would be nice then. Dead Air nomad LTi XC is one that comes with bead blasted ti finish option. I'd personally sell the xeno hub/muzzle device that comes with it and put a direct thread hub adapter in it if I went that direction.