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Ample *unquoted and unprovided* evidence
I wonder what a survey of people east of Mississippi asking about land in the West would reveal. Or maybe the core question of who should pay for it.@Treeshark surely in the world of PLT - you can find a biased survey that reflects your views?
Sounds like a biased question.There is ample evidence that most people prefer decision-making power to rest with state and local governments vs federal.
Sounds like a biased question.
Well - i guess i just cant find what you are, and im not willing to simply take your word for it.No worries- if you’re actually interested in learning more about polling and survey info in that subject, you can research that easily on your own.
Sure i'll direct that survey!I wonder what a survey of people east of Mississippi asking about land in the West would reveal. Or maybe the core question of who should pay for it.
Sounds like a biased question.![]()
Of the federal taxes you pay, are you okay with two tenths of every penny funding public lands ?
I'm fine with it. My point was more on surveys. Asking people (those in the West) who are higher users of something you will probably get different views that those that are lower users of that same thing. If you said Should Yellowstone be turned over to Wyoming? and Should BLM land be turned over to Wyoming? I bet you will get totally different results. That is why the decision has been framed a number of ways in the press 1) sell land for affordable housing 2) sell land to pay down the debt 3) give land back to states because they know more about managing it. I'm sure there are more. They are all BS, but they ring true to many.Sure i'll direct that survey!
Of the federal taxes you pay, are you okay with two tenths of every penny funding public lands ?
(*note if commercial consumptive users paid 1/3rd market rate or any at all in the case of some mining - public lands would greatly contribute to taxes).
There is no reason and in fact the structure was designed as such that decision making was/is local with the federal government. That was the idea behind blm field office with a field manager and forest ranger for each forest. The whole “local” control is such a misdirection by the transfer crowd to suck you in. It was and can be still common for these positions with decision making authority to be local often people that grew up in the area. Even if not the process is in place to interface with the locals. It’s Washington politics and directives from Washington usurping power from the local federal leadership that is your enemy not federal management.There is ample evidence that most people prefer decision-making power to rest with state and local governments vs federal.
2 tenths of a penny would be .2%, probably less, but i figured you got the idea.20% of federal tax dollars go towards funding public land?
To add to this point at least for BLM lands, if done through reconciliation the proceeds would go to the general fund. If done via FLPMA the federal land transaction facilitation act would be followed with proceeds going to the federal lands disposal account to be used to purchase other lands with high conservation or recreational value. That’s why the reconciliation public land sale is such a ripoff.I think it is important to emphasize the process that this is being done through. FLPMA already has a process for disposing of public lands and those lands are outlined in local resource management plans. Disposal includes the NEPA process, public comment, etc. A budget reconciliation bill is not the place to do it and sets a bad precedent. I wonder if this kind of softer messaging will change some minds in DC?
2 tenths of a penny would be .2%,
treeshark is uncanny in his ability to beat a horse that's been killed about a dozen times.
This is the part of that local control BS that I've never understood either. The FS and BLM both hold numerous open comment periods, open houses, etc. on management plans, forest planning, RMP's, etc. etc. with the locals. Also, any local can parade into a BLM or FS office and get a meeting with a district ranger, etc. pretty easily. Those living closest to the public lands in question get a pretty nice seat at the table if they want it.There is no reason and in fact the structure was designed as such that decision making was/is local with the federal government. That was the idea behind blm field office with a field manager and forest ranger for each forest. The whole “local” control is such a misdirection by the transfer crowd to suck you in. It was and can be still common for these positions with decision making authority to be local often people that grew up in the area. Even if not the process is in place to interface with the locals. It’s Washington politics and directives from Washington usurping power from the local federal leadership that is your enemy not federal management.
I was just hoping he had a survey to back up his opinion.treeshark is uncanny in his ability to beat a horse that's been killed about a dozen times.
Is the 335,000 acres for mining? Certainly doesn’t look like a spot that needs affordable housing.Budget bill amendment, full text
Corresponding map of NV and UT federal lands for disposal, if passed:
View attachment 372031
On the upside, larger media outlets have begun picking up the story within the last 48 hours.
Would make sense. Gotta make Tesla batteries somehow.Is the 335,000 acres for mining? Certainly doesn’t look like a spot that needs affordable housing.
Getting larger media attention would be great. People I talk to do not even know anything is happening. As soon as they hear the land sales are in UT and NV they lose interest. Must think it wouldn't happen closer to home in the future.Budget bill amendment, full text
Corresponding map of NV and UT federal lands for disposal, if passed:
View attachment 372031
On the upside, larger media outlets have begun picking up the story within the last 48 hours.