Relax, Everything is Going to be Okay!

[BigHornRam]

I think he was saying it's to spray. My guess to spray fields. Those could easily be above .55 lbs.

@Carnage2011 said it's over 55 pounds. That's big enough to wreck airplanes, drop bombs, and all kinds of other fun stuff.

 

[cgasner1]

 

[BigHornRam]

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[WyoCoalMiner]

BTNF is finding ways to get work done.

BTNF begins prescribed fires with 'favorable' weather

AFTON, Wyo. — The Bridger-Teton National Forest (BTNF) is planning prescribed fire operations this month and into April, the agency announced on Thursday, March 20. The Greys River Ranger District of the BTNF plans to implement up to 2,500 acres Prescribed Burn in Unit 2, which is within the...

buckrail.com

 

[Carnage2011]

The irony is getting thicker!

https://www.reuters.com/world/china/secretive-chinese-network-tries-lure-fired-federal-workers-research-shows-2025-03-25/

A network of companies operated by a secretive Chinese tech firm has been trying to recruit recently laid-off U.S. government workers, according to job ads and a researcher who uncovered the campaign.
Max Lesser, a senior analyst on emerging threats with the Washington-based think tank Foundation for Defense of Democracies, said some companies placing recruitment ads were "part of a broader network of fake consulting and headhunting firms targeting former government employees and AI researchers."

What is earth shattering about this to you? The Chinese are constantly trying to tap into our government secrets in one way or another. This seems like just another step for them…it’s hardly worth calling it news. Remember when your congressman was sleeping with the spy? If they are willing to go that far don’t you think this is just an everyday deal for them?

 

[Straight Arrow]

What is earth shattering about this to you? The Chinese are constantly trying to tap into our government secrets in one way or another. This seems like just another step for them…it’s hardly worth calling it news. Remember when your congressman was sleeping with the spy? If they are willing to go that far don’t you think this is just an everyday deal for them?

Everyday deal, yes. However, Bonasbaby is pointing to the irony as the current administration is firing highly educated, experienced, knowledgeable, professional folks who now need a new job and the Chinese are offering to help them ... albeit to the benefit of China and to the detriment of this administration, supposedly elected to improve the USA.

 

[Carnage2011]

Everyday deal, yes. However, Bonasbaby is pointing to the irony as the current administration is firing highly educated, experienced, knowledgeable, professional folks who now need a new job and the Chinese are offering to help them ... albeit to the benefit of China and to the detriment of this administration, supposedly elected to improve the USA.

I get that. It’s also nothing more than a piece designed to get an emotional response. If there is something confidential that gets shared due to these people being fired, that would still be illegal.

 

[Irrelevant]

Recession is coming before end of 2025, generally 'pessimistic' corporate CFOs say: CNBC survey

The US economy will enter a recession in 2025, with Trump's tariffs leading top corporate CFOs to 'pessimism' and less spending, according to a CNBC survey.

www.cnbc.com

Maybe it’s not going to be ok!

December 2024 7% of CFOs thought a recession would occur.

Q1 2025 - 60% say a recession will occur in 2025. 15% are optimistic and say a recession in 2026.

~75% of CFOs say we’re now heading towards a recession.

sweet. Can't wait. Seriously. I haven't been able to work ONLY a 40 hr week in years.

 

[RG300]

Ripping the band aid off fast always hurts...but its the best thing.

 

[Oak]

sweet. Can't wait. Seriously. I haven't been able to work ONLY a 40 hr week in years.

I realize that you are being a bit facetious, but cheering for the hardship a recession would inflict upon a large segment of Americans is not a great look. And having an administration that is actively pushing us in that direction rather than trying to maintain a strong economy is a bit disconcerting. Did a majority of voters really vote for a recession because, as @RG300 says, "its (sic) the best thing?"

 

[Big Fin]

This thread was started in response to the notion that changes will/won't impact public lands and conservation. Keep it to those topics and take the other issues to your FB pages.

It's almost as if some of you want this thread closed, so you continue to interject points unrelated to public land management and conservation.

I've deleted some of the recent posts that take us into the ditch. Nothing personal, just trying to get things back on track.

 

[WyoCoalMiner]

I thought this was supposed to be the positive thread. If I wanted to hear a bunch of depressing, whiney BS, I would click on literally any other thread on HT.

 

[TOGIE]

I realize that you are being a bit facetious, but cheering for the hardship a recession would inflict upon a large segment of Americans is not a great look. And having an administration that is actively pushing us in that direction rather than trying to maintain a strong economy is a bit disconcerting. Did a majority of voters really vote for a recession because, as @RG300 says, "its (sic) the best thing?"

I think any cheering you might hear is because people see it as one of the only hopes for snapping the administration back to reality or, at least, forcefully steering them away from things being done that are indeed actively pushing us in bad directions.

As it relates to public lands and our wildlife that this administration is undoubtedly not good for.... I'll basically cheer for anything that stalls their progress.

I hate to say it, i really do.

 

[Nameless Range]

Yep I have. Been trying to get a drone registered. Prior to Elon cutting people it was schedule to be completed the last week of Feb. Now it’s scheduled for late April/early May.

That's interesting and sucks. I've registered more than a dozen drones with the FAA, and it usually takes less than a day, though I haven't done it in 2025.

Be sweet to see that drone you've purchased in action.

Back in 2017, the FAA did a study on drones vs manned aircraft using a Phantom 3 and a Hawkeye 3. That 2.7 pound phantom was absolutely capable of taking a plane down if the collision hits the wrong part of the plane, and I wonder if the day some careless drone pilot causes a fatal plane crash will come and bring the laissez faire use of drones in this country to its knees.

 

[Oak]

This thread was started in response to the notion that changes will/won't impact public lands and conservation.

The NGOs carrying out the bulk of wildlife conservation work rely upon the discretionary spending capacity of those who care about the resource. Anyone who has tried to run a conservation organization during a recession understands that you're not going to accomplish as much when the dollars are just not coming in.

 

[Irrelevant]

I realize that you are being a bit facetious, but cheering for the hardship a recession would inflict upon a large segment of Americans is not a great look. And having an administration that is actively pushing us in that direction rather than trying to maintain a strong economy is a bit disconcerting. Did a majority of voters really vote for a recession because, as @RG300 says, "its (sic) the best thing?"

"bit" is the key, but I can see value in a recession for both me personally and us societally. I have lamented that the current workforce has never had to work to get a job, unemployment has always been so low that people were desperate for labor. I feel like that made some workers lazier and more entitled. We've gone through recessions before and came out of it fine.

Personally, I'm nowhere near retirement, so I would support being able to buy stock at cheaper prices. Same and even more so for real estate. Hard times favor the prepared. I'm prepared. I am a believer that not everything should be easy and that hard times make better people.

Lastly, I would get immense gratification in seeing the truck nut bros of the world get a hard lesson in personal finance.

The NGOs carrying out the bulk of wildlife conservation work rely upon the discretionary spending capacity of those who care about the resource. Anyone who has tried to run a conservation organization during a recession understands that you're not going to accomplish as much when the dollars are just not coming in.

From that angle, I can see why you (and I) should be anti-recession. But, and this doesn't hold true for any one NGO, I could see a very large benefit to wildlife in reduced development caused by a recession equally or exceeding the ability of an NGO to raise funds and do conservation work. Locally, I see a lot of value in the work NGOs are doing, but they can't keep pace with the losses from development and the boom in recreation impacts.

 

[TOGIE]

The NGOs carrying out the bulk of wildlife conservation work rely upon the discretionary spending capacity of those who care about the resource. Anyone who has tried to run a conservation organization during a recession understands that you're not going to accomplish as much when the dollars are just not coming in.

A legit problem that i'm glad you point out.

A legit question though: what's worse, the destruction of the management and protection of wildlife or the damage done to funding for a temporary time period i.e., recession?

Perhaps even a recession wouldn't stall the administrations progress or steer them differently. Perhaps the future potential damage to wildlife from this administration is too theoretical given its potential is in the future and not fully known and further, it's a temporary administration (one should rightfully hope regardless). And of course what could come from a recession is as far as funding is more known.

 

[Oak]

A legit problem that i'm glad you point out.

A legit question though: what's worse, the destruction of the management and protection of wildlife or the damage done to funding for a temporary time period i.e., recession?

Perhaps even a recession wouldn't stall the administrations progress or steer them differently. Perhaps the future potential damage to wildlife from this administration is too theoretical given its potential is in the future and not fully known and further, it's a temporary administration (one should rightfully hope regardless). And of course what could come from a recession is as far as funding is more known.

We are on the same page.

 

[BuzzH]

BTNF is finding ways to get work done.

BTNF begins prescribed fires with 'favorable' weather

AFTON, Wyo. — The Bridger-Teton National Forest (BTNF) is planning prescribed fire operations this month and into April, the agency announced on Thursday, March 20. The Greys River Ranger District of the BTNF plans to implement up to 2,500 acres Prescribed Burn in Unit 2, which is within the...

buckrail.com

Right, because wildland fire fighters were exempt from the illegal lay offs.

 

[brymoore]

"bit" is the key, but I can see value in a recession for both me personally and us societally. I have lamented that the current workforce has never had to work to get a job, unemployment has always been so low that people were desperate for labor. I feel like that made some workers lazier and more entitled. We've gone through recessions before and came out of it fine.

Personally, I'm nowhere near retirement, so I would support being able to buy stock at cheaper prices. Same and even more so for real estate. Hard times favor the prepared. I'm prepared. I am a believer that not everything should be easy and that hard times make better people.

Lastly, I would get immense gratification in seeing the truck nut bros of the world get a hard lesson in personal finance.


From that angle, I can see why you (and I) should be anti-recession. But, and this doesn't hold true for any one NGO, I could see a very large benefit to wildlife in reduced development caused by a recession equally or exceeding the ability of an NGO to raise funds and do conservation work. Locally, I see a lot of value in the work NGOs are doing, but they can't keep pace with the losses from development and the boom in recreation impacts.

The last recession was rough. I’m very good at my job and remember thinking about what to do if I’m laid off, years of no salary increases or bonus as companies tried to stay viable. No Bueno.

The only positive I saw was the reduced amount of hunters in the field. Idaho couldn’t giveaway its NR tags. I had hot spots to myself that would now have 12 trucks parked at the gate.