Relax, Everything is Going to be Okay!

[Bonasababy]

The Federal government is the largest employer in the country, hence this would be the largest layoff of all time. So yeah, unique.

Enough to affect the economy by itself, esp. in rural areas where federal folks are a big part of the local economy!

 

[BrentD]

Do y’all think the lack of rd work will keep some people out of the forest?

Big Timber will be "brightening up those roads, big time. Trees are going to be coming down like never before.

 

[Sytes]

Big Timber will be "brightening up those roads, big time. Trees are going to be coming down like never before.

Hope so, in many overgrowth MT areas. Maple leaf operators that drive multiple logging, dimensional, and pulp/shaving trucks down 93 every - single - day, right through the same National Forest that used to embody logging employment for our "American" communities.
Thinning as The Nature Conservancy deploys on a daily basis would be fantastic!

 

[Alpine01]

Enough to affect the economy by itself, esp. in rural areas where federal folks are a big part of the local economy!

No disagreement with this statement. There are similar examples where a town is predominantly one-industry dependent (mining in one form or another comes to mind) and the loss of that industry leads to a ghost town.

 

[Sytes]

The timing on that comment:

There are similar examples where a town is predominantly one-industry dependent (mining in one form or another comes to mind) and the loss of that industry leads to a ghost town.

 

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[INMT]

I mean it's weird when people root for failure or disaster outside of maybe sports.

Is that not what this administration is doing by systematically dismantling agencies they don’t like.

 

[Hilljackoutlaw]

Is that not what this administration is doing by systematically dismantling agencies they don’t like.

My POV is not the same as yours in that regard. I also don't see how that's particularly relevant to how people should conduct himself or herself.

 

[Bonasababy]

Well this administrations conduct sure brings on deserved scorn!

It comes so fast it's hard to keep up.

Yesterday it was Kennedy cancelling normally routine meetings to start preparation for this falls flu shot, killing the collective bargaining unit for tens of thousands of TSA workers, and Musk talking about pardoning Derek Chauvin, the rogue (was not his first abuse) MPLS cop that murdered George Floyd and caused nationwide outcry and riots.

Homeland Security ends TSA collective bargaining agreement, in effort to dismantle union protections

A union representing Transportation Security Administration workers calls the Department of Homeland Security's decision to end the collective bargaining agreement with them an “unprovoked attack.”

apnews.com

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/nation-politics/elon-musk-doubles-down-on-ben-shapiros-plea-for-trump-to-pardon-derek-chauvin/

https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2025-02-28/health-experts-sound-alarm-as-fda-cancels-key-vaccine-meeting

 

[wyoelkfan15]

Long read, but worth noting what the technogarchs want to do with our public lands.

‘Startup City’ Groups Say They’re Meeting Trump Officials to Push for Deregulated ‘Freedom Cities’

The architects of projects like Próspera are drafting legislation to create US cities that would be free from federal regulations.

www.wired.com

"Allen tells WIRED that using federal land would lower the cost of development for startup cities. The Frontier Foundation suggests that federally owned land outside western cities like Boise, Idaho; Grand Junction, Colorado; and Redmond, Oregon would be suitable candidates. “If we're able to get a legislative transfer of land from the US government to make a public-private partnership, or a trust, or even a private corporation, then it's a lower cost of capital,” he explains."

 

[Bonasababy]

Sounds like this won't affect my state much, but I know Manitoba sends many millions of dollars of power across the border to us.

Canada to cut off electricity to US states: "Need to feel the pain"

U.S. President Donald Trump has imposed a new round of tariffs targeting Canada, Mexico and China.

www.newsweek.com

 

[noharleyyet]

 

[Hilljackoutlaw]

US Ag secretary says 'mistakes made' in some fed firings; may review local Forest Service fires

In an Asheville visit March 6, the US Secretary of Agriculture commented on Forest Service firings, Hendersonville's Farm Service Agency, and more.

www.citizen-times.com

 

[Hilljackoutlaw]

Long read, but worth noting what the technogarchs want to do with our public lands.

‘Startup City’ Groups Say They’re Meeting Trump Officials to Push for Deregulated ‘Freedom Cities’

The architects of projects like Próspera are drafting legislation to create US cities that would be free from federal regulations.

www.wired.com

"Allen tells WIRED that using federal land would lower the cost of development for startup cities. The Frontier Foundation suggests that federally owned land outside western cities like Boise, Idaho; Grand Junction, Colorado; and Redmond, Oregon would be suitable candidates. “If we're able to get a legislative transfer of land from the US government to make a public-private partnership, or a trust, or even a private corporation, then it's a lower cost of capital,” he explains."

A nice DC sized freedom city in the owyhees sounds great. What a stupid idea...this one is seriously a head scratcher to me. I'm one that realizes you gotta take the good with the bad in every administration as a citizen of the USA, but this idea rubs in a bad way everything I dislike about the world all at once! Technology is my biggest enemy and others greatest treasure. I was born a 100 years to late.

 

[Benfromalbuquerque]

3/1 Executive Order “Immediate Expansion of American Timber Production” just may be the ticket to delay or abandon the attempt to transfer Federal lands to State ownership.

Hear me out now because this is a dumpster fire shitshow of an order. It was written, in part, to thin out the woods for fire prevention. Any asshole who’s been around long enough knows the mature trees in a climax forest are not the point of ignition. Yet I digress.
If the USDA, BLM proceed with the order as written then millions of acres will be available for timber operations. If these forests were not in Federal reserves and given to the States then they would be all sorts of off limits. If States owned the land then different regulation hurdles and surely more expensive access rates would hamper the timber industry! I can see RMEF lobbying in unison with Boise Cascade over this one. Different objectives, but the common goal being to keep our Federal lands Federal.

 

[F250]

Sounds like this won't affect my state much, but I know Manitoba sends many millions of dollars of power across the border to us.

Canada to cut off electricity to US states: "Need to feel the pain"

U.S. President Donald Trump has imposed a new round of tariffs targeting Canada, Mexico and China.

www.newsweek.com

Doubt that would happen. Hydro Quebec could not survive without the income generated from their huge hydro dams they built on the edge if the tundra. A good share of that energy goes to the US east coast.

 

[Benfromalbuquerque]

Doubt that would happen. Hydro Quebec could not survive without the income generated from their huge hydro dams they built on the edge if the tundra. A good share of that energy goes to the US east coast.

For real, it’s just political posturing. Did everyone forget the Northeast Blackout of 2003?! There are mutually beneficial agreements in place that intertwine the grid from Hudson Bay to Pittsburgh and east to the Atlantic. Doug Ford’s counter threat didn’t only jeopardize Ontario, but all adjacent provinces and states.

 

[Bonasababy]

3/1 Executive Order “Immediate Expansion of American Timber Production” just may be the ticket to delay or abandon the attempt to transfer Federal lands to State ownership.

Hear me out now because this is a dumpster fire shitshow of an order. It was written, in part, to thin out the woods for fire prevention. Any asshole who’s been around long enough knows the mature trees in a climax forest are not the point of ignition. Yet I digress.
If the USDA, BLM proceed with the order as written then millions of acres will be available for timber operations. If these forests were not in Federal reserves and given to the States then they would be all sorts of off limits. If States owned the land then different regulation hurdles and surely more expensive access rates would hamper the timber industry! I can see RMEF lobbying in unison with Boise Cascade over this one. Different objectives, but the common goal being to keep our Federal lands Federal.

Nope. The objective to sell federal lands is strong. It's an age old plan the timber industry often uses. Cut the timber first then sell the land.

 

[Bonasababy]

For real, it’s just political posturing. Did everyone forget the Northeast Blackout of 2003?! There are mutually beneficial agreements in place that intertwine the grid from Hudson Bay to Pittsburgh and east to the Atlantic. Doug Ford’s counter threat didn’t only jeopardize Ontario, but all adjacent provinces and states.

I think people underestimate the anger in Canada. Their people are not just not buying US products but demanding they be removed from shelves. Ford and even Trudeau's popularity has gone through the roof.

 

[cgasner1]

I think people underestimate the anger in Canada. Their people are not just not buying US products but demanding they be removed from shelves. Ford and even Trudeau's popularity has gone through the roof.

So why is Trudeau stepping down then?