Rattlesnakes

Gr8bawana

Well-known member
Joined
Jul 14, 2013
Messages
3,120
Location
Nevada
Our dogs get the snake bite vaccine/booster every spring. Supposed to slow the effect of the venom and give you more time to get them to the vet after they’ve been bitten.

I get rattled at 3-4 times per year, but haven’t had one strike at me yet. Don’t carry any kind of kit. I know one person who lost a dog to snake bite, but don’t think I know a person who has been bitten.
Our vet does not recommend the snakebite vaccine for dogs. We live on southern NV and there are a fair number of rattlers around.
We ran into this guy while archery hunting near Mesquite NV a few years ago, it was not happy to see us at all.

June 28, 2017 (San Diego’s East County) – The canine rattlesnake vaccine has been administered to over 100,000 dogs since it came on the market in the early 2000s. While only about 1 percent of dogs had side effects, the bad news is “there remains little fact-based data to support the efficacy of the vaccine to date,” according to Valerie Wiebe, Pharm.D with the University of California, Davis. In other words, it’s not clear if the vaccine actually works.

102523
 
Last edited:

Gellar

Member
Joined
Jan 31, 2014
Messages
479
Location
The Driftless Area
7,000-8,000 people are bitten in the US every year.

Up to 70% of reptile bites are provoked by the person bitten, based on cases seen by the Arizona Poison and Drug Information Center. "Most of them tend to be males under the age of 25 who have been drinking ... they're out there messing around with snakes doing some dumb stuff," said Goode.
I use this photo in some of my presentations on snakebites and snakebite treatment. This woman did not get bit by this timber rattlesnake, but her boyfriend did!
 

Attachments

Gellar

Member
Joined
Jan 31, 2014
Messages
479
Location
The Driftless Area
Thats a big one. Ive been running around the the hills up there all my life and have never seen one.
Based on the rattles I would estimate that it is a 9-10 year old female. They get a new rattle every time they shed their skin and with our winters they usually only shed their skin 1-2 times a year. Timber rattlesnakes are very dependent on their den and very rarely travel more than 1-2 miles from their den. The best time to see one away from the den is during the breeding season in August. When it is very dry in late summer they will go down to the bottom of the valleys to streams for water. Often times they are hit crossing roads at that time.
 

WalkingBird

Member
Joined
Aug 28, 2017
Messages
124
Location
Muley Junction, Arizona
We got our dog snake broke through a guy out of Tucson, and that's worked out really well. He (the dog) gets really hawky when he smells a snake and that helps us a lot in the desert, but the only thing i carry for a post-bite situation is Benedryl (sp?) that a local vet recommended for both our own use and for the pup should one of us get struck
 

ashersdad

Active member
Joined
Feb 8, 2007
Messages
2,863
Location
Portland, OR
Holy crap Miller!! You’re braver than I am. For some reason when I see a snake, I turn into a screaming little girl... Luckily I’ve never been bit but I’ve screamed multiple times.
 

mtmiller

Well-known member
Joined
Jul 7, 2001
Messages
9,171
Location
Montana
Nice photos Craig. Prairie rattlers I believe. I give rattlesnakes a pass unless they are up to my house but I'm still not picking one up.
It is the only one I have ever picked up. I find a few and like to get pics and then get them off the road. This day I was pulling t-posts and someone was with me. Since someone was there to get a non-selfie, I figured what the heck, probably safer. Doubt I will do it again, but I can check it off the list.
 

beagle001

Member
Joined
Aug 14, 2015
Messages
344
Location
Central WI
This thread gives me the heebie-jeebies. I'm always curious how many rattlers you western hunters run into every year... They make me nervous as heck, and I don't know how much time I should be looking for them! o_O
 

dirtclod Az.

Member
Joined
Jan 24, 2018
Messages
743
Legend is if you can get them to strike 9 times they can't coil up quickly and you can
put a stick to thier head and grab them on the back of the neck.I've done it twice.
One was an Albino Rattler at the lake.I find most of my snakes near water.4 in one day
on Easter Sunday.:cool:
 

hank4elk

Well-known member
Joined
Jan 8, 2015
Messages
2,993
Location
SW NM
All the kit does is waste time you should be using to get to the hospital...
THIS!
EMS-Protocols for snake bites has evolved immensely from 20 yrs ago. We had snake bite kits in our EMS kits & I personally carried one for years in my packs, but I have never used one.
I had several snake bite victims as a Park Ranger/EMTII & I just got them to hospital quick & they were lucky.

I do know anti-venoms are the norm in my area of remote NM with special concerns with Mojave Greens being common here. They have neurotoxins & hemotoxins in their venom & considered deadly bites if neglected.
I have killed 2 that have struck at me here. They are very aggressive.
I never kill rattlesnakes unless they are really bothering me or right under the porch & such. They eat rodents,too many rodents here.
I should look into what my neighbor the VFD Chief has in his kit & what is protocols for VFD.
Some ranchers here have anti-venom in the fridge now, that know vet stuff. Just too far to get help quick here. I do know old wives tales are the norm in local thinking....good luck with that. & the snake bite kit.
 
Top