Pebble Mine Update

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But now, in a new court filing, Pebble’s developer says just a tiny number of salmon are blocking the mine’s construction — 27 fish, to be exact, and all one species.

Federal regulators, who halted the project in 2023, are “preserving” 27 coho salmon “at the cost of $800 billion” in minerals, lawyers for Pebble Limited Partnership wrote in a recent brief filed in Alaska’s federal district court.


^BS
 
Such complete bullshit could only surface with this administration. This king my wife caught and others like it are in the path as well, millions of all five species of pacific salmon but mainly sockeye, (reds) are in the path. Now that I’ve had my coffee that king was from 6 years ago, we’ve not killed any since then. I clearly need another cup of coffee. All y all have a great day!
 

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Of course not I hadn’t’ had my coffee yet. A simple knee jerk reaction due to a lack of information and recent prejudice against this administration and anything to do with fish and water. Now, of course, I’ll have to read the article. I am guilty of running my mouth, so to speak, before engaging my brain.
I still won’t kill Kings. Silvers (coho) and Sockeye (reds) yes, depending on watershed. I don’t kill or eat chum (dog) or Pinks (stinky). They are fun to catch however. Apparently i need more coffee as I am in a bit of a funk this morning.
 
you gotta admit, i'd almost assume pigs would be flying before i ever read a sentence like this: "It responds to a move by the Trump administration earlier this year to defend the Biden-era project veto."
I think Trump blocked the permit late in first term. I have been watching closely to see it get approved because it seems like something that is low-hanging fruit for how the 2nd Admin wants to operate. I assume they are waiting for the various lawsuits to play out. Or, as has been suggested, they are waiting for a check...
 
Pebble didn't buy enough meme coins.
Relatable. I couldnt afford enough to rig the rules for myself either.

Whats sad is that level of influence isnt even available to someone thats won a 100m lottery. That might be enough to rig the rules at the MT state landboard though.

Gross that public resource plundering by special interest is normalized in soceity now.
 
So long as that copper, gold, and molybdenum are in the ground there, this will be a fight. And so long as half the world's sockeye keep returning to the bay, I think we'll be able to stave off the inevitable a little longer.

We are lucky such a strong and diverse coalition of local tribes, commercial fishermen, restauranters, and sportsmen--including Don Jr.-- have fought this off this long.
 
So long as that copper, gold, and molybdenum are in the ground there, this will be a fight. And so long as half the world's sockeye keep returning to the bay, I think we'll be able to stave off the inevitable a little longer.

We are lucky such a strong and diverse coalition of local tribes, commercial fishermen, restauranters, and sportsmen--including Don Jr.-- have fought this off this long.
And as long as miss-information and misunderstanding is out there, the fight will continue.

There are 11 major salmon rivers in the BB. The one that Pebble is on, is one of the lessor producers.

The findings of the EIS stated that even with a major release of tailings, population level effects of the region would be immeasurable due to variability of runs,. Yet, so many arguments claim that the mine will kill off all the fish. Which is it?

Virtually every salmon stock in the world has been depleted by either overfishing, dams, human population center pollution, and dams. But this one mine is the end of all salmon...
 
There are 11 major salmon rivers in the BB. The one that Pebble is on, is one of the lessor producers.
The headwaters of the Kvichak? Respectfully, the Kvichak is not a "lessor producer." All those rivers lead to the same bay. Trace amounts of copper in the water and it is game over for the bay. That means Naknek, Egegik, and the Nush are all just as much at risk.

The footprint of the proposed mine itself is larger than Seattle, and they would have to displace all of the water ad infinitum, and destroy all of those egg beds to do it (the scumbags that named it Pebble Mine named it after Pebble Beach golf course because of all the ponds, and because rich guys only see golf courses when they look out on nature).

Building to minimum standards in a place with a history of massive earthquakes isn't a great idea, and building to minimum to save costs would most definitely happen. And even if the dam doesn't break in 50 years, it will eventually.

Some places are worth the risk, some places are not. Regardless, I assure you that those who have lived and worked there--and been fighting against this mine since the early 90s--aren't dumb, aren't spreading misinformation, and know what they are talking about.
 

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