Oregon bill to criminalize hunting and fishing

@rtraverdavis I hope you and the rest of your states man are keeping tabs on this idiotic stunt. I'm sure there are plenty of other guy's from Oregon here but Randy came to mind first

.https://www.gohunt.com/browse/news-and-updates/hunting-news/oregon-ip28-would-criminalize-hunting-fishing-and-trapping
They’ve been trying to get this insanity on the ballot for years. It’s never made it passed the signature-gathering phase. Hard to imagine how’d they’d get enough signatures to make it happen if people actually knew what the law would entail.
 
They’ve been trying to get this insanity on the ballot for years. It’s never made it passed the signature-gathering phase. Hard to imagine how’d they’d get enough signatures to make it happen if people actually knew what the law would entail.
Thats good to hear. When I saw the numbers they had it looked like they were getting close. Maybe they stahl there. Hopefully.
 
They’ve been trying to get this insanity on the ballot for years. It’s never made it passed the signature-gathering phase. Hard to imagine how’d they’d get enough signatures to make it happen if people actually knew what the law would entail.
It has 92000 signatures and needs 117,000. The article says for the November ballot but I’m sure there is a deadline before that so they have time to print the ballots.
 
It has 92000 signatures and needs 117,000. The article says for the November ballot but I’m sure there is a deadline before that so they have time to print the ballots.
They have until July to gather the signatures. Hopefully they’re getting close to capacity on the people gullible enough to buy into how they’re pitching it.

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It’s pitched as an “end animal cruelty” measure. Lots of folks won’t take the time to investigate further than that. They just think, “yeah, people should stop beating dogs,” and sign on the line. Talk about deceptive.
 
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I'll be meeting with a lot of the Oregon folks involved when I'm in OR next week. Seems the strategy is to place as much focus as possible in getting the item on the ballot in a mid-term year. Turnout is historically lower, so the supporters hope they can increase their odds of passage.

Batshit crazy has a new definition if you look at that one. I do think a well organized campaign will kill it, hopefully for good.
 
There attempts are too big. Stop hunting would be a stretch alone but they are after all fishing, ranching and processing. That would put Wilco, Fisherman’s, Cabelas, sportsman’s, boat manufactures other feed stores out of business. No hay farming. It’s way too big. Messing with all the farmers, businesses, growers is a stretch.
 
There attempts are too big. Stop hunting would be a stretch alone but they are after all fishing, ranching and processing. That would put Wilco, Fisherman’s, Cabelas, sportsman’s, boat manufactures other feed stores out of business. No hay farming. It’s way too big. Messing with all the farmers, businesses, growers is a stretch.
…all the farm-to-table restaurants that no doubt many of people who’ve signed this petition love so much. I just can’t see how most of the people who’ve signed it really know what it is and what it would do.
 
I just can’t see how most of the people who’ve signed it really know what it is and what it would do.
I highly doubt they do. I’ve been approached by petitioners before on voting issues I had already researched. Some of them are downright dishonest in how they frame their petitions. I flat called one on it once, and I’m not sure they were really smart enough to understand the discrepancy.
 
That’s exactly what I was thinking.
No doubt the Colorado anti-hunting activists that sit on the wildlife commission and frequent the commission meetings are watching closely. It is a strategy of incrementalism and shifting baselines. They make a little progress every year. And when they launch another anti-hunting ballot initiative in Colorado, it doesn’t look quite as crazy as IP28.
 

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