North Dakota
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MNHunter
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I'm not sure ND has a draw odds page like most states. I downloaded some deer draw odds before the 2011 draw that I can email to you if that's what you are looking for. PM me if you want em
hardscrabble
Active member
If I remember right ther draw odds are only posted when the applications come out. I do know they post them. You may have to wait until April or so. NR odds fall into the category of not good.
Badlandcat
Active member
1 % of the tags go to NR. odds are very low if you are trying for mule deer. They do have a NR landowner tag if you want to buy a ranch.
bennett454
Member
They emailed me the draw odds I can try and dig them up
bennett454
Member
The attached file is what I can provide. It will allow to calculate the odds for every unit and deer type we have available. The antlered deer types are A, C, & E. The antlerless deer types are B, D, & F. Nonresidents are allowed 1% of the total available. For instance Unit 1, Deer Type A had 900 available. 9 of these go to nonresidents. The “NR” column shows the number of nonresidents that applied this year. We had 22 apply in unit 1 so your chances would be about 41%.
Bear in mind the number of deer tags available, and the number of people that apply are different every year. These numbers just show what we had in 2011.
Applying in a party is fairly easy. When you go online to purchase your application, usually they become available mid-May, when you get to the spot where you enter your name and mailing address, at the bottom of the screen is a box saying, “add a party member”. You just need to click that box and follow the instructions on the screen.
2011
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DEER AFTER APPS 2012
UNIT TYPE AVAIL GRATIS REC'D NR* AVAIL
1 A 900 770 986 ( 22) XXXX
1 B 1000 930 115 ( 1) XXXX
2A A 500 311 945 ( 23) XXXX
2A B 200 99 253 ( 5) XXXX
2B A 4100 3599 4732 (167) XXXX
2B B 3500 3231 1186 ( 19) XXXX
2C A 3000 2480 3309 (119) XXXX
2C B 4250 3970 382 ( 6) XXXX
2D A 1400 1257 1573 ( 73) XXXX
2D B 1800 1723 113 ( 2) XXXX
2E A 2000 1447 2882 (121) XXXX
2E B 2500 2203 241 ( 2) XXXX
2F1 A 2600 2333 2125 ( 96) XXXX
2F1 B 2600 2457 223 ( 10) XXXX
2F2 A 2200 1868 3127 (147) XXXX
2F2 B 3000 2822 414 ( 4) XXXX
2G A 700 570 901 ( 41) XXXX
2G B 700 630 170 ( 4) XXXX
2G1 A 1700 1362 2756 (106) XXXX
2G1 B 1700 1518 591 ( 2) XXXX
2G2 A 1200 881 1931 ( 72) XXXX
2G2 B 1600 1429 360 ( 7) XXXX
2H A 1000 772 1656 (106) XXXX
2H B 1400 1278 157 ( 4) XXXX
2I A 1600 1177 2602 ( 98) XXXX
2I B 2000 1773 272 ( 5) XXXX
2J1 A 700 355 1480 ( 47) XXXX
2J1 B 700 515 169 ( 1) XXXX
2J2 A 1800 1514 2256 ( 93) XXXX
2J2 B 2300 2146 237 ( 7) XXXX
2K1 A 1000 610 1914 ( 50) XXXX
2K1 B 1800 1590 151 ( 0) XXXX
2K2 A 3000 2330 4317 (212) XXXX
2K2 B 5000 4640 285 ( 3) XXXX
2L A 800 715 700 ( 32) XXXX
2L B 1400 1355 44 ( 0) XXXX
3A1 A 900 484 2445 ( 83) XXXX
3A1 B 500 276 185 ( 1) XXXX
3A2 A 1300 1072 2014 ( 50) XXXX
3A2 B 2100 1978 223 ( 5) XXXX
3A3 A 1100 664 2295 ( 52) XXXX
3A3 B 1200 966 256 ( 3) XXXX
3A4 A 2100 1690 2888 ( 76) XXXX
3A4 B 2500 2280 317 ( 5) XXXX
3B1 C 400 270 1307 ( 45) XXXX
3B1 D 300 241 66 ( 3) XXXX
3B1 E 500 337 687 ( 41) XXXX
3B1 F 500 402 54 ( 1) XXXX
3B2 C 300 211 413 ( 18) XXXX
3B2 D 400 346 61 ( 0) XXXX
3B2 E 250 176 275 ( 7) XXXX
3B2 F 250 217 22 ( 1) XXXX
3B3 A 150 120 523 ( 16) XXXX
3B3 B 150 140 124 ( 1) XXXX
3B3 C 1000 802 954 ( 33) XXXX
3B3 D 1700 1588 135 ( 1) XXXX
3C A 100 73 614 ( 31) XXXX
3C B 200 178 107 ( 1) XXXX
3C C 1100 802 1055 ( 37) XXXX
3C D 1400 1247 99 ( 1) XXXX
3D1 A 250 168 551 ( 21) XXXX
3D1 B 400 350 45 ( 1) XXXX
3D1 C 250 169 182 ( 4) XXXX
3D1 D 300 263 4 ( 1) XXXX
3D2 A 400 251 788 ( 27) XXXX
3D2 B 500 417 102 ( 1) XXXX
3D2 C 350 219 232 ( 13) XXXX
3D2 D 400 333 8 ( 1) XXXX
3E1 A 400 283 764 ( 38) XXXX
3E1 B 1000 913 104 ( 1) XXXX
3E1 C 600 424 498 ( 27) XXXX
3E1 D 800 730 6 ( 0) XXXX
3E2 A 600 433 944 ( 56) XXXX
3E2 B 1000 913 160 ( 2) XXXX
3E2 C 450 324 316 ( 22) XXXX
3E2 D 800 730 17 ( 0) XXXX
3F1 A 450 405 785 ( 34) XXXX
3F1 B 900 872 39 ( 2) XXXX
3F1 C 800 721 181 ( 20) XXXX
3F1 D 1200 1162 8 ( 0) XXXX
3F2 A 450 345 892 ( 52) XXXX
3F2 B 1200 1121 75 ( 0) XXXX
3F2 C 800 612 393 ( 45) XXXX
3F2 D 1200 1122 13 ( 0) XXXX
4A C 250 185 518 ( 26) XXXX
4A D 300 262 27 ( 0) XXXX
4A E 300 222 1149 ( 54) XXXX
4A F 300 261 36 ( 1) XXXX
4B C 200 163 251 ( 11) XXXX
4B D 200 176 7 ( 1) XXXX
4B E 400 326 2370 (169) XXXX
4B F 300 265 73 ( 1) XXXX
4C C 200 167 191 ( 10) XXXX
4C D 300 274 6 ( 0) XXXX
4C E 400 335 2543 (219) XXXX
4C F 300 274 80 ( 5) XXXX
4D C 250 233 200 ( 11) XXXX
4D D 300 286 9 ( 2) XXXX
4D E 350 325 1779 (153) XXXX
4D F 200 191 97 ( 6) XXXX
4E C 250 232 84 ( 16) XXXX
4E D 250 238 4 ( 0) XXXX
4E E 200 185 765 ( 41) XXXX
4E F 100 95 31 ( 0) XXXX
4F C 300 273 200 ( 19) XXXX
4F D 500 484 11 ( 1) XXXX
4F E 100 91 205 ( 24) XXXX
4F F 100 97 15 ( 2) XXXX
Bear in mind the number of deer tags available, and the number of people that apply are different every year. These numbers just show what we had in 2011.
Applying in a party is fairly easy. When you go online to purchase your application, usually they become available mid-May, when you get to the spot where you enter your name and mailing address, at the bottom of the screen is a box saying, “add a party member”. You just need to click that box and follow the instructions on the screen.
2011
_________________________
DEER AFTER APPS 2012
UNIT TYPE AVAIL GRATIS REC'D NR* AVAIL
1 A 900 770 986 ( 22) XXXX
1 B 1000 930 115 ( 1) XXXX
2A A 500 311 945 ( 23) XXXX
2A B 200 99 253 ( 5) XXXX
2B A 4100 3599 4732 (167) XXXX
2B B 3500 3231 1186 ( 19) XXXX
2C A 3000 2480 3309 (119) XXXX
2C B 4250 3970 382 ( 6) XXXX
2D A 1400 1257 1573 ( 73) XXXX
2D B 1800 1723 113 ( 2) XXXX
2E A 2000 1447 2882 (121) XXXX
2E B 2500 2203 241 ( 2) XXXX
2F1 A 2600 2333 2125 ( 96) XXXX
2F1 B 2600 2457 223 ( 10) XXXX
2F2 A 2200 1868 3127 (147) XXXX
2F2 B 3000 2822 414 ( 4) XXXX
2G A 700 570 901 ( 41) XXXX
2G B 700 630 170 ( 4) XXXX
2G1 A 1700 1362 2756 (106) XXXX
2G1 B 1700 1518 591 ( 2) XXXX
2G2 A 1200 881 1931 ( 72) XXXX
2G2 B 1600 1429 360 ( 7) XXXX
2H A 1000 772 1656 (106) XXXX
2H B 1400 1278 157 ( 4) XXXX
2I A 1600 1177 2602 ( 98) XXXX
2I B 2000 1773 272 ( 5) XXXX
2J1 A 700 355 1480 ( 47) XXXX
2J1 B 700 515 169 ( 1) XXXX
2J2 A 1800 1514 2256 ( 93) XXXX
2J2 B 2300 2146 237 ( 7) XXXX
2K1 A 1000 610 1914 ( 50) XXXX
2K1 B 1800 1590 151 ( 0) XXXX
2K2 A 3000 2330 4317 (212) XXXX
2K2 B 5000 4640 285 ( 3) XXXX
2L A 800 715 700 ( 32) XXXX
2L B 1400 1355 44 ( 0) XXXX
3A1 A 900 484 2445 ( 83) XXXX
3A1 B 500 276 185 ( 1) XXXX
3A2 A 1300 1072 2014 ( 50) XXXX
3A2 B 2100 1978 223 ( 5) XXXX
3A3 A 1100 664 2295 ( 52) XXXX
3A3 B 1200 966 256 ( 3) XXXX
3A4 A 2100 1690 2888 ( 76) XXXX
3A4 B 2500 2280 317 ( 5) XXXX
3B1 C 400 270 1307 ( 45) XXXX
3B1 D 300 241 66 ( 3) XXXX
3B1 E 500 337 687 ( 41) XXXX
3B1 F 500 402 54 ( 1) XXXX
3B2 C 300 211 413 ( 18) XXXX
3B2 D 400 346 61 ( 0) XXXX
3B2 E 250 176 275 ( 7) XXXX
3B2 F 250 217 22 ( 1) XXXX
3B3 A 150 120 523 ( 16) XXXX
3B3 B 150 140 124 ( 1) XXXX
3B3 C 1000 802 954 ( 33) XXXX
3B3 D 1700 1588 135 ( 1) XXXX
3C A 100 73 614 ( 31) XXXX
3C B 200 178 107 ( 1) XXXX
3C C 1100 802 1055 ( 37) XXXX
3C D 1400 1247 99 ( 1) XXXX
3D1 A 250 168 551 ( 21) XXXX
3D1 B 400 350 45 ( 1) XXXX
3D1 C 250 169 182 ( 4) XXXX
3D1 D 300 263 4 ( 1) XXXX
3D2 A 400 251 788 ( 27) XXXX
3D2 B 500 417 102 ( 1) XXXX
3D2 C 350 219 232 ( 13) XXXX
3D2 D 400 333 8 ( 1) XXXX
3E1 A 400 283 764 ( 38) XXXX
3E1 B 1000 913 104 ( 1) XXXX
3E1 C 600 424 498 ( 27) XXXX
3E1 D 800 730 6 ( 0) XXXX
3E2 A 600 433 944 ( 56) XXXX
3E2 B 1000 913 160 ( 2) XXXX
3E2 C 450 324 316 ( 22) XXXX
3E2 D 800 730 17 ( 0) XXXX
3F1 A 450 405 785 ( 34) XXXX
3F1 B 900 872 39 ( 2) XXXX
3F1 C 800 721 181 ( 20) XXXX
3F1 D 1200 1162 8 ( 0) XXXX
3F2 A 450 345 892 ( 52) XXXX
3F2 B 1200 1121 75 ( 0) XXXX
3F2 C 800 612 393 ( 45) XXXX
3F2 D 1200 1122 13 ( 0) XXXX
4A C 250 185 518 ( 26) XXXX
4A D 300 262 27 ( 0) XXXX
4A E 300 222 1149 ( 54) XXXX
4A F 300 261 36 ( 1) XXXX
4B C 200 163 251 ( 11) XXXX
4B D 200 176 7 ( 1) XXXX
4B E 400 326 2370 (169) XXXX
4B F 300 265 73 ( 1) XXXX
4C C 200 167 191 ( 10) XXXX
4C D 300 274 6 ( 0) XXXX
4C E 400 335 2543 (219) XXXX
4C F 300 274 80 ( 5) XXXX
4D C 250 233 200 ( 11) XXXX
4D D 300 286 9 ( 2) XXXX
4D E 350 325 1779 (153) XXXX
4D F 200 191 97 ( 6) XXXX
4E C 250 232 84 ( 16) XXXX
4E D 250 238 4 ( 0) XXXX
4E E 200 185 765 ( 41) XXXX
4E F 100 95 31 ( 0) XXXX
4F C 300 273 200 ( 19) XXXX
4F D 500 484 11 ( 1) XXXX
4F E 100 91 205 ( 24) XXXX
4F F 100 97 15 ( 2) XXXX
bennett454
Member
Sorry I couldn't attach it as a file so its a tad jumbled.
MNHunter
Well-known member
I uploaded the 2010 stats to Google. You can see them here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Av6I8h74DAx8dEhiWmdaOS1QLTU4bHpQU2liQy14MWc
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Av6I8h74DAx8dEhiWmdaOS1QLTU4bHpQU2liQy14MWc
boof
New member
Hey fellas, reviving an old thread here. In the spreadsheet posted by MNHunter, what does the "-21" mean in the nonresident category? Does that mean that 21 guys applied for 9 applications?
MNHunter
Well-known member
Yes, that is correct.
boof
New member
Thanks for the info. It's a shame you can't just buy a preference point. I'll have to look at units that are nearly impossible to draw for my first couple years of applying.
naturebob
New member
To Damn COLD to hunt here. I only used My tag opening half day. Can some one explain why they have the opener at noon on Friday too? Makes no sense. To much private land . If You can find a place open to public ,Theres to many people. I give credit to Montana for there Block Management program.....BOB!
Slick
Member
Naturebob. I'm from Minot and I disagree with everything you said. It is just as cold as eastern MT, MN and at times SD.
Why they structured the season opener like that, I have no idea.
There is a whole host of public land called the National Grasslands out west, not to mention PLOTS and other public lands, like Darling and Audubon's public land. I will also say false on to many people. You're telling me that out of maybe 115 buck tags IF that for unit 4B you're going to see a ton of people? HA!
Maybe you should get out of the truck and burn some rubber with your feet, but to each there own. Stay in the truck, it won't bother me.
On the contrary, MT blows every state out of the water for their liberal public lands, tags and seasons.
There is no comparison between ND and MT, but in January, Beulah holds a big buck contest and most years it takes a 200+ to win it. The badlands hold some incredible trophies.
Good day sir.
Why they structured the season opener like that, I have no idea.
There is a whole host of public land called the National Grasslands out west, not to mention PLOTS and other public lands, like Darling and Audubon's public land. I will also say false on to many people. You're telling me that out of maybe 115 buck tags IF that for unit 4B you're going to see a ton of people? HA!
Maybe you should get out of the truck and burn some rubber with your feet, but to each there own. Stay in the truck, it won't bother me.
On the contrary, MT blows every state out of the water for their liberal public lands, tags and seasons.
There is no comparison between ND and MT, but in January, Beulah holds a big buck contest and most years it takes a 200+ to win it. The badlands hold some incredible trophies.
Good day sir.
naturebob
New member
I know the Badlands has Great deer and the Grass lands too. How many years to get drawn? And I do get out and walk. More than Most people. Why did You assume I didn't? I am from Arizona. Probly walked More in My hunting career than 99% of the Folks up here. And I am 57 and still do it. Opening day I hiked way in and had 2 nimrods drive thru an area that had no road . I am just used to going hunting where Your on Nat. Forrest ,State or BLM. Never had to ask permission.I have found the Country folks to be great and kind people until it comes to deer hunting. Its simple Most here don't like the outta towners here working in the oil, and You know its true. From now on I will only put in for the public areas. If don't get drawn I go to 2-3 other States plus Mexico in January Anyway...Fighting to find a place to hunt aint worth It. Happy hunting.......BOB
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The ND draw odds are published every year in the February edition of the ND Outdoors Magazine. Here is a link to those magazines. http://gf.nd.gov/publications/north-dakota-outdoors-archive
As far as I know, it is mostly just odds for residents. Just figure non-resident odds are much worse...
Also, I believe that 1/2% of the tags for non-residents can go to outfitters. ND is pathetic with their non-resident allocation and I'd be very, very surprised if the tags given to non-residents ever changes.
Also, I'm with Slick and could not disagree with naturebob more. My 2 biggest whitetails (around 150") have both come off of public land. Not National Forest land either. I've also shot a couple in the 120-130" range on public and unposted private land. Also about a 155" muley on public. I don't doubt that you walk a lot and the best advice I could give to you is to draw a 50 mile radius around Minot and hunt outside of that circle. Had I known you had a tag this year I could have at least tried to point you in the right direction. With tomorrow being the last day though that makes it a little tough......
As far as I know, it is mostly just odds for residents. Just figure non-resident odds are much worse...
Also, I believe that 1/2% of the tags for non-residents can go to outfitters. ND is pathetic with their non-resident allocation and I'd be very, very surprised if the tags given to non-residents ever changes.
Also, I'm with Slick and could not disagree with naturebob more. My 2 biggest whitetails (around 150") have both come off of public land. Not National Forest land either. I've also shot a couple in the 120-130" range on public and unposted private land. Also about a 155" muley on public. I don't doubt that you walk a lot and the best advice I could give to you is to draw a 50 mile radius around Minot and hunt outside of that circle. Had I known you had a tag this year I could have at least tried to point you in the right direction. With tomorrow being the last day though that makes it a little tough......
naturebob
New member
Slick and VDO84, thanks for Your advice. I'm sure if I had time here I could make it work, Went out a few times scouting, problem is a lot of farmers don't post the land till right before the hunt, so it did no good to scout. It gets frustrating when You don't know where to go and were use to being able to hunt where You wanted in AZ. and New Mexico.. Places I did find in the little time I spent out had lottsa Hunters. Easy for You guys ,You know where to go. I had a 3a2 tag ,and did put in for the refuge first but didn't get it. I did Harvest a Average Muley in Montana last week. I will post story and pics here soon. Thanks again and I don't mean to be knocking Your State. Its mine too now that I have lived here almost 3 years with Wife and older kids ,Bought a place here and wife likes it too. Just a different way of Hunting for Me ,and tough for an old desert rat to get used to the cold. I'm here till 62 ,less than 5 years so I better get used to it......BOB!
