Non-political Make ICE hate make sense to me. Can it be civil?

[BigHornRam]

Good example of when the local LE work with ICE and Border Patrol. Problem resolved peacefully.
Protest at Rock Springs hotel lodging border patrol officers prompts police response - WyoFile https://share.google/61KP4CYdKS6mF1nzo

 

[Justabirdwatcher]

And that bolded part is what should be the mandatory minimum for anyone running for president. Unfortunately, we as a country have strayed very far away from that criterion.

Citizens United vs. FEC has made it impossible for decent human beings to compete for any major office these days.

 

[BigHornRam]

Google will give you a dozen articles. I heard it from a few places last summer.

Inside Ag: Idaho dairies brace for uncertainty amid new immigration enforcement threats

Producers are worried about their people, product, and what will happen to the prices if it continues.

www.ktvb.com

This line in the article sums it up.....

For decades, dairy leaders have asked Congress for something to help them legally hire the workers they depend on.

 

[brymoore]

This line in the article sums it up.....

For decades, dairy leaders have asked Congress for something to help them legally hire the workers they depend on.

Yep. Immigration programs needs updated.

 

[BigHornRam]

Yep. Immigration programs needs updated.

As well as the Visa program. The dairy industries problem is the work is not seasonal, but most of the foreign workers just want to work here. They don't want to immigrate here. This was mentioned in the article......

"One possible thing that could help is allowing year-round dairy workers to have access to the seasonal H-2A visa program."

 

[howl]

There's no should or shouldn't. You can't save someone from drowning by drowning yourself. Look at the tax taken from your paycheck. Look at how much credit card debt people carry.

We don't need immigrants nor can we afford them. We can't afford so-called asylum seekers. We can't even afford foreign aid.

Consider this. An illegal can make $20+ an hour picking watermelons. Why? Because our native labor is tied up by government programs. The adults can get an acceptable quality of life, by their standards, off welfare. The teens are sitting at school doing little to nothing for years longer than necessary. 'migos aren't doing things we cannot, they're just doing what we don't because our excessive taxes fund wasteful programs which prevent us.

The immigration problem is wholly artificial. Opposition to deportation is from ignorance and greed.

 

[BigHornRam]

There's no should or shouldn't. You can't save someone from drowning by drowning yourself. Look at the tax taken from your paycheck. Look at how much credit card debt people carry.

We don't need immigrants nor can we afford them. We can't afford so-called asylum seekers. We can't even afford foreign aid.

Consider this. An illegal can make $20+ an hour picking watermelons. Why? Because our native labor is tied up by government programs. The adults can get an acceptable quality of life, by their standards, off welfare. The teens are sitting at school doing little to nothing for years longer than necessary. 'migos aren't doing things we cannot, they're just doing what we don't because our excessive taxes fund wasteful programs which prevent us.

The immigration problem is wholly artificial. Opposition to deportation is from ignorance and greed.

I worked on dairies in high school and after. It was hard work and great work experience. It was also great incentive to get a college education.

 

[Straight Arrow]

There's no should or shouldn't. You can't save someone from drowning by drowning yourself. Look at the tax taken from your paycheck. Look at how much credit card debt people carry.

We don't need immigrants nor can we afford them. We can't afford so-called asylum seekers. We can't even afford foreign aid.

Consider this. An illegal can make $20+ an hour picking watermelons. Why? Because our native labor is tied up by government programs. The adults can get an acceptable quality of life, by their standards, off welfare. The teens are sitting at school doing little to nothing for years longer than necessary. 'migos aren't doing things we cannot, they're just doing what we don't because our excessive taxes fund wasteful programs which prevent us.

The immigration problem is wholly artificial. Opposition to deportation is from ignorance and greed.

Respectfully, I must sympathize with you ... as clearly circumstances burdened you with a lemon of life. If I were you, move to another country might be the solution.

On the other hand, IMO this nation has enough wealth to do darn near anything anyone can dream of, but certainly to help downtrodden poor countries and peoples.
The taxation structure is in dire need of revision. Public education most places is okay, but always warrants improvement and changes to keep up with technology of the world.
Federal, state, and local governmental programs and organizations need reform to be more efficient, void of "waste, fraud, and abuse", and better at providing citizen safety, care, and maintenance of infrastructure. However, those programs and organizations are critical to our needs and necessarily are funded by taxes.

I assert that most working folks have the financial ability to pay a fair share of taxes to keep things operating for the good of all. Those who have been burdened by the lemon of life are best treated with uplift and care ... by the rest of us who have won the lottery of life by being born in the USA and being able to thrive and get ahead through education, hard work, managing money, and also sharing as volunteers and good citizens.

 

[Forkyfinder]

We are often not helping as much as we might think.