Montana mule deer rant

[mtmuley]

Yes, it absolutely was a rhetorical question.

And a revolving one. Not saying we shouldn't discuss, but until we can get the powers here in Montana to pay attention to mule deer, it's a lost cause. Most hunters do not value the privilege of hunting mule deer. Hence the "birthrights" and the Thanksgiving shooters. mtmuley

 

[Deleted member 20812]

And a revolving one. Not saying we shouldn't discuss, but until we can get the powers here in Montana to pay attention to mule deer, it's a lost cause. Most hunters do not value the privilege of hunting mule deer. Hence the "birthrights" and the Thanksgiving shooters. mtmuley

I agree completely. And, that’s where Big Hank needs to be a leader and realize the 60 year old model isn’t working anymore.

 

[DFS]

Spot on that’s why I support killing them all on public, then we can all look across the fence on private land and say why can’t we hunt those deer. Not hard for me to see why those deer are acrossed the fence. Kill them all nothing is going to change.

And a revolving one. Not saying we shouldn't discuss, but until we can get the powers here in Montana to pay attention to mule deer, it's a lost cause. Most hunters do not value the privilege of hunting mule deer. Hence the "birthrights" and the Thanksgiving shooters. mtmuley

 

[Pagosa]

I spoke to one of the main region biologist this past winter for about an hour and I think they have come to the conclusion that deer numbers post Ww2 (50-80s) were over-inflated due to low hunting, low predators, and people living a rqnching lifestyle and not many traveling hunters. He basically told me to get back to those numbers management changes would be implemented that would not be agreeable to most hunters, such as reduced seasons, curbing elk numbers, and such. This is basically the new normal and herds have stabilized. Additionally, these current management is based on lessons learned from CWD studies in other states. They are getting ahead of the problem by eradicating the deer herds to stop CWD spreading. That was basically what I took from the conversation.

 

[DFS]

I spoke to one of the main region biologist this past winter for about an hour and I think they have come to the conclusion that deer numbers post Ww2 (50-80s) were over-inflated due to low hunting, low predators, and people living a rqnching lifestyle and not many traveling hunters. He basically told me to get back to those numbers management changes would be implemented that would not be agreeable to most hunters, such as reduced seasons, curbing elk numbers, and such. This is basically the new normal and herds have stabilized. Additionally, these current management is based on lessons learned from CWD studies in other states. They are getting ahead of the problem by eradicating the deer herds to stop CWD spreading. That was basically what I took from the conversation.

Been there sounds accurate. Be happy with what you have we aren’t going to change, things are looking great. The stupid thing about it is minor changes could lead to a healthier deer herd and a lot of people in the field. Success would inevitably go down but after all its hunting.

 

[Deleted member 20812]

I spoke to one of the main region biologist this past winter for about an hour and I think they have come to the conclusion that deer numbers post Ww2 (50-80s) were over-inflated due to low hunting, low predators, and people living a rqnching lifestyle and not many traveling hunters. He basically told me to get back to those numbers management changes would be implemented that would not be agreeable to most hunters, such as reduced seasons, curbing elk numbers, and such. This is basically the new normal and herds have stabilized. Additionally, these current management is based on lessons learned from CWD studies in other states. They are getting ahead of the problem by eradicating the deer herds to stop CWD spreading. That was basically what I took from the conversation.

There are likely some very valid kernels of truth in this, and also some solely meant to support the current path.

 

[TheTone]

Just saw someone on another site struggling to find deer for their doe tag. The amount of miles they listed driving vs hiking was impressive

 

[golfer]

Just saw someone on another site struggling to find deer for their doe tag. The amount of miles they listed driving vs hiking was impressive

Saw that too. Makes that price/pound skyrocket for the amount of miles he has driven.

 

[brockel]

They are getting ahead of the problem by eradicating the deer herds to stop CWD spreading. That was basically what I took from the conversation.

FWP ahead of something? That’s funny shit

 

[DFS]

FWP ahead of something? That’s funny shit

If we are going to eliminate deer I would like to see them go out on their own terms. FWP biologists already say harvest has no effect on population. So what exactly are we doing. They can’t have it both ways.

 

[300stw]

the dumb bucks are hitting the dirt today,,, the amt of little bucks in trucks is stupid today,,,,

 

[8andcounting]

the dumb bucks are hitting the dirt today,,, the amt of little bucks in trucks is stupid today,,,,

And it’s just starting there’s half the season left

 

[brocksw]

And it’s just starting there’s half the season left

The best half too.

 

[8andcounting]

The best half too.

I think it’s hilarious to go to Montana as a NR , after months of bitching about NR on social media , then park at the bar at dark and see Montana pickups full of fork and 3 point bucks . Birthright#

 

[brockel]

I think it’s hilarious to go to Montana as a NR , after months of bitching about NR on social media , then park at the bar at dark and see Montana pickups full of fork and 3 point bucks . Birthright#

Yep residents are just as guilty of stacking does up. Non residents are just an easy target just as they always have been

 

[8andcounting]

Yep residents are just as guilty of stacking does up. Non residents are just an easy target just as they always have been

NR do their fair share too I don’t really mean to make it N vs NR but opening weekend I hunted Dillon areas - on way home on 90 on like Wednesday after opener I saw trailers full of doe’s headed to western montana . Multiple

 

[MTGomer]

This is what you’re up against.

 

[300stw]

the new style biologist i mentioned earlier,, wonder where there getting there degrees,,,,,

 

[mtmiller]

the new style biologist i mentioned earlier,, wonder where there getting there degrees,,,,,

Do a little search. This guy is not a biologist, just a moron with a voice. We have lots of them.

 

[300stw]

Do a little search. This guy is not a biologist, just a moron with a voice. We have lots of them.

i realize that,,,,, it was a joke,,,,everyone is a biologist these days,,,