three of the biggest bulls I have killed were jumped to me by "moosie you can`t out hike me in the hills type" in my 20`s I had that attitude but now I see guys bust there ass trying to be the first one to the top of the hill while walking right past the big stuff and settle for a spike at the top of the hill,,,,,a smart hunter beats the guy with te attitude everytime,,,take for instance last season and what I killed verses our hero moosie,,..except for the bull greeny got for him,,,i kicked his ass