Israel attacks Iran’s nuclear facilities

[406dn]

Ok, how about this: if he was able to walk on water, some would say it’s because he can’t swim.

For the record, I’m not a fan of him personally, I’m just trying to be honest.

When posing hypotheticals, they have to sound plausible, sorta anyway.

You could use... if Trump refrained from any infidelities, you'd say it's only because he's impotent.

 

[noharleyyet]

Funny how ones perspective affects their perceived reality. I encourage you to do a classification and post count analysis of the last 3 pages.

Oh, I agree & suggest you do the same with first 15...

 

[cgasner1]

Im at the point I'll probably lock this and keep it for reading purposes.
It was about Israel/Iran attacks and now it's arguments for/against the president.

Only benefit of this thread is it seems to be keeping the bullshit for running over into other threads

 

[rogerthat]

Oh, I agree & suggest you do the same with first 15...

I think I will shoot my bow

 

[Rusty0811]

When posing hypotheticals, they have to sound plausible, sorta anyway.

You could use... if Trump refrained from any infidelities, you'd say it's only because he's impotent.

I could say the same…it’s why I used the word “if”.

 

[rjthehunter]

Im at the point I'll probably lock this and keep it for reading purposes.
It was about Israel/Iran attacks and now it's arguments for/against the president.

It was going well. Until the Trump bashers showed up.

The ceasefire is still holding. I'm optimistic that neither Israel or Iran will push it right now. Hopefully now that their nuclear program has been blown up, they'll stop for a few years.

 

[Darkside]

If Trump cured cancer you’d say he is the devil.

Ooh He's Not.

 

[SAJ-99]

You define the paramters then

Hard to do that. That was my point. Both sides are in a position that a cease fire is beneficial. Peace and calm aren’t the same thing. And all this situation has done is reinforce that if a country wants to guarantee sovereignty, they best do that by owning a nuclear weapon or two.

 

[NDGuy]

Hopefully now that their nuclear program has been blown up, they'll stop for a few years.

Let's hope but doesn't look like it.

US strikes did not destroy Iran nuclear programme, says intelligence assessment

The White House called the initial damage evaluation on Iran's uranium stockpile "flat-out wrong".

www.bbc.com

https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/24/politics/intel-assessment-us-strikes-iran-nuclear-sites

 

[Forkyfinder]

Let's hope but doesn't look like it.

US strikes did not destroy Iran nuclear programme, says intelligence assessment

The White House called the initial damage evaluation on Iran's uranium stockpile "flat-out wrong".

www.bbc.com

https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/24/politics/intel-assessment-us-strikes-iran-nuclear-sites

Lets be honest.

If trump turned the entire place to rubble and glass - cnn would say that.

If trump shot 15 airsoft bbs across the iranian border - fox would say their programs demolished.

No one knows and will for a long time.

 

[SAJ-99]

Lets be honest.

If trump turned the entire place to rubble and glass - cnn would say that.

If trump shot 15 airsoft bbs across the iranian border - fox would say their programs demolished.

No one knows and will for a long time.

It was the BBC.
Here is the problem. If it wasn’t destroyed, Iran won’t admit it and Trump won’t admit it. We end up in an alternative realty.

This seems like a mature response.
“The White House said the "flat-out wrong" assessment was leaked by "a low-level loser in the intelligence community".”

 

[brymoore]

Lets be honest.

If trump turned the entire place to rubble and glass - cnn would say that.

If trump shot 15 airsoft bbs across the iranian border - fox would say their programs demolished.

No one knows and will for a long time.

No one does know for now.

Israel did a great job in killing leadership and destroying aircraft/military structure.

B-2s hit its targets.

The long term question is whether Iran is still nuclear or did all the military actions only piss off a hornet’s nest.

Non-nuclear Iran should continue to be the goal. I’d rather have Israel pissing Iran off militarily than the US.

I don’t blame Trump. Biden or Harris might have made the same decision after advice from the DoD.

 

[NDGuy]

I don’t blame Trump. Biden or Harris might have made the same decision after advice from the DoD.

Ya gotta watch and see for now, but there's also been rumblings Iran was notified. So did they clear out their Uranium before getting hit? That's important

 

[elkduds]

It was the BBC.
Here is the problem. If it wasn’t destroyed, Iran won’t admit it and Trump won’t admit it. We end up in an alternative realty.

This seems like a mature response.
“The White House said the "flat-out wrong" assessment was leaked by "a low-level loser in the intelligence community".”

It's all smoke and mirrors. Who trusts a leadership that celebrates misdirection, obfuscation and bald-faced lies to it's citizens and allies, as well as enemies? Just raise your hands so you can recognize each other, the rest of us already identified you.

 

[Gulf of America]

No one knows and will for a long time.

I agree with this, but right now we have Trump's statement that it was complete destruction before the dust even settled, and a leaked intelligence report stating otherwise. Personally, I trust even a low-confidence intelligence report more than Trump's gut, but YMMV. It does seem interesting that Iran had already filled in the entrances with dirt prior to the strike, and one would think the mountain would have collapsed if the entire facility inside was demolished, but I'm not a geotech so IDK. I know I sure as hell wouldn't want to go in there even if they told me it was intact.

 

[Lostinthewoods]

Apologies. I did think the future was relevant.

Do you see Iran stopping attacks in the near, mid, and long term?

There is a lot of relevant talk. Then there is a lot of people who just want to come share their view about a person and derail the thread.
I just want it to not go off the rails like a crazy train.

 

[noharleyyet]

It's all smoke and mirrors. Who trusts a leadership that celebrates misdirection, obfuscation and bald-faced lies to it's citizens and allies, as well as enemies? Just raise your hands so you can recognize each other, the rest of us already identified you.

There is a lot of relevant talk. Then there is a lot of people who just want to come share their view about a person and derail the thread.
I just want it to not go off the rails like a crazy train.

 

[elkduds]

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It's all smoke and mirrors. Who trusts a leadership that celebrates misdirection, obfuscation and bald-faced lies to it's citizens and allies, as well as enemies? Just raise your hands so you can recognize each other, the rest of us already identified you.

FIFY

 

[NR_Hunter]

Lets be honest.

If trump turned the entire place to rubble and glass - cnn would say that.

If trump shot 15 airsoft bbs across the iranian border - fox would say their programs demolished.

No one knows and will for a long time.

You think the Mossad doesn’t have good intel? I think their track record kinda speaks for itself. Granted they could be lying as well. I don’t think the news organization is quite that relevant to the truth.

 

[Lostinthewoods]

It seems like some of you can finish your conversations in a PM.
Cheers.