Is this true

[mixedbag]

guy on bowsite claims he was at an MBA meeting where it was told Montana only sold 15,000 NR combos with 2,000 going otc.This would be great for me as I drew my tag,but would they be given this imfo from the Montana game and fish??Looks like Montana has found the ceiling for which NR will pay for tags if true
Hope this is true would be my first time in Montana hunting and can't wait.Like to thank the guys on here that have helped in my research also.I think I have a few spots narrowed down pretty well,with back up plans.Biologists there were very helpful too and would get back to me very quick with answers to my questions

 

[Khunter]

guy on bowsite claims he was at an MBA meeting where it was told Montana only sold 15,000 NR combos with 2,000 going otc.This would be great for me as I drew my tag,but would they be given this imfo from the Montana game and fish??Looks like Montana has found the ceiling for which NR will pay for tags if true
Hope this is true would be my first time in Montana hunting and can't wait.Like to thank the guys on here that have helped in my research also.I think I have a few spots narrowed down pretty well,with back up plans.Biologists there were very helpful too and would get back to me very quick with answers to my questions

Enjoy the hunt. Big dan would not make that up so you are good to go.

 

[Dinkshooter]

Don't question BD or you will lose a star pronto.

 

[Big Fin]

That is an unconfirmed rumor, but it wouldn't surprise me. I have called Helena to ask for confirmation, but no reply.

I think you will draw, for sure. Good luck.

 

[Ben Lamb]

This is what we're hearing too. Nothing substantiated yet though. I read that thread on Bowsite. If MOGA is sending around an email telling membership that there will be extra tags, then you kinda lean that way.

 

[Khunter]

Don't question BD or you will lose a star pronto.

I ain't messin with that--even over here. Man has more fans than justin bieber..

 

[shoots-straight]

guy on bowsite claims he was at an MBA meeting where it was told Montana only sold 15,000 NR combos with 2,000 going otc.This would be great for me as I drew my tag,but would they be given this imfo from the Montana game and fish??Looks like Montana has found the ceiling for which NR will pay for tags if true
Hope this is true would be my first time in Montana hunting and can't wait.Like to thank the guys on here that have helped in my research also.I think I have a few spots narrowed down pretty well,with back up plans.Biologists there were very helpful too and would get back to me very quick with answers to my questions

The lack of tags sales could have more to do with the economy, and the direction our big game herds are headed than the cost of the tag itself. We're at the end of a record winter in the North Eastern part of Montana, and the Elk herds in then West, and South West are headed downhill.

Hard to compete with Colorado, where they boast twice the elk as us.

 

[wingman1]

I hope its true. I have a lot of friends that applied this year that are hoping to elk hunt archery this year.

 

[Big Fin]

The lack of tags sales could have more to do with the economy, and the direction our big game herds are headed than the cost of the tag itself. We at the end of a record winter in the North Eastern part of Montana, and the Elk herds in then West, and South West are headed downhill.

Hard to compete with Colorado, where they boast twice the elk as us.

Shoots - I agree, it could be the economy. But, we have a slightly better economy this year (if you believe what they say on TV) than last. The economy is probably about the same. So, the comparing this year to last year, with the price increase is probably somewhat valid.

Wolves might have some impact, but that news has been on the street for a couple years now. Weather - who knows what impact that had on sales.

Hard to compete with CO, for sure. But, the decision to raise prices was not made in a vaccuum, so the CO factor needs to be considered.

My biggest concern is that if the tags do not sell after the deadline, we are talking about a big hit to FWP revenue. Not just those tag sales we lost, but the P-R matching money that would come with such. Usually a 2:1 or 3:1 match. Ouch!

I am still trying to confirm the rumor.

 

[Ben Lamb]

Remember also that this time last year the OSL's were far below projected sales, IIRC.

 

[Big Fin]

Just confirmed with the Director of Licensing, that at this time, they will not need to go forward with a draw, as they have more tags than they do applicants. They are going through the stacks of mailed applications with the March 15th postmark.

Even with those, it appears there is no need for a draw. What the undersold level will be, is still in question.

 

[Dinkshooter]

What are the chances New Mexico will be the same?

 

[Dinkshooter]

And if there are extras, let me be the first to offer $500 for a combo tag and breaks archery permit!!!

 

[npaden]

I know for me the cost for the deer combo license kept me away this year.

I was going to go through the come home to hunt program and buy my brothers licenses to make it a family get together type deal but decided it wasn't worth it. I made my decision before the bad winter hit.

 

[mdunc8]

Just confirmed with the Director of Licensing, that at this time, they will not need to go forward with a draw, as they have more tags than they do applicants. They are going through the stacks of mailed applications with the March 15th postmark.

Even with those, it appears there is no need for a draw. What the undersold level will be, is still in question.

Any word on the deer licenses? Just found out my dad is definitely planning on coming out this fall and I'd like to grab him a deer tag if there's any left.

 

[Frequently Banned Troll]

Just curious on how good of an idea I-161 was..

 

[Oak]

My biggest concern is that if the tags do not sell after the deadline, we are talking about a big hit to FWP revenue. Not just those tag sales we lost, but the P-R matching money that would come with such. Usually a 2:1 or 3:1 match. Ouch!

When is the deadline? I would be shocked if tags remain unsold. And just think, you saved the expense of having a drawing.

 

[Big Fin]

Any word on the deer licenses? Just found out my dad is definitely planning on coming out this fall and I'd like to grab him a deer tag if there's any left.

The deer tags have more apps submitted than there are tags available, so there will be a drawing for those. Seems like it will be much better odds than in years past, but still not a guarantee.

 

[Big Fin]

When is the deadline? I would be shocked if tags remain unsold. And just think, you saved the expense of having a drawing.

The deadline for apps was March 15th. The results will be out on April 20th, or maybe sooner. At that time, the tags will go on sale, on-line, as a first come - first served, until all are sold, or season starts.

I hope they sell them all.

 

[Big Fin]

Just curious on how good of an idea I-161 was..

If the purpose was to get rid of the guaranteed tag for outfiitted clients was the issue, it was a dismal failure.

If the purpose was to lower the price on guided hunters and increase the price on self-guided hunters, it was a smashing success.

If the purpose was to open more private land to hunting, it appears to be a dismal failure. Could still be wrong on that one. I guess time will tell, but preliminary results are not good, based on the landowners I talk to, and the potential hit Block Management stands to take.

If the purpose was to piss off landowners, via the fact that the outfitters have their ear and their sympathies, it appears to be a success. I didn't see it as an attack on landowners, but them being so close to MOGA, it was easy for MOGA to paint it as an attack on landowners. Not all landowners, but the majority I talk to, view it that way.