Have you seen Whites loggers? Their "spring heel" is pretty much the same as a riding heel on cowboy boots. I don't think you'll find a thicker sole on any hiking boot! I probably put hundreds of miles in the saddle with those boots and stirrups without once coming close to having my boot go through. I don't think it's possible.I'm going to agree with you on the "overshoe" stirrups , except the logging boot part. That's a good way to get Texas justice road rash
. They are oversized stirrups to accommodate wider toe boxes and thicker soles on most hunting boots.
I wear a 15 narrow, never wore the Packer style boot either, I also wore logging style boots that I could hike all day in if necessary. I bought oversized stirrups for my saddle , which fit my winter boots mo better!I always wore my Whites logging boots for riding. Tossed the rawhide bound stirrups for metal and oak "overshoe" stirrups so no worries about getting hung up. That way I could get off and hike when I got to hunting area. No need to pack a second pair of boots. "Packer" style boots are a joke for anything but walking around camp or barnyard. Not enough tread on the soles for climbing. Those things are just a silly status symbol. Dysfunctional and extremely expensive. Don't bite that bait!
Hopefully they are gonna be alrightAs noted by several on this thread, horse wrecks can ruin a weekend or a hunting season, wrecks are more common it seams this time of year. We are out of town this week but we're still notified via group page for our search and rescue team of a horse wreck 8 miles from the trail head. Came in at 1700 hours. Long way for the team to go. Be a long night for the injured.
There is a guy from Penna that did a video about 5 friends/people he knew that were very experienced riders that came to tragic ends. All 5 were killed in some type of never anticipated accident. You should try to find that video and watch it carefully. Shtz can happen, no matter what you do.Haha, you gotta REALLY like horses to hunt with em. You gotta like arena riding, you gotta like doing ground work in a round pen, you gotta enjoy trail riding and you gotta not lose your shit when one won’t get in the trailer at midnight in the dark. I’ve only had horses for 3 years, I did not grow up with them. But boy have I learned some phucking lessons in 3 short years.
Google Carson James. He’s the most no bullshit and the best at explaining the way equines think.
There is never an “all of a sudden” (Unless you jump a cat or a grizzly). 99% of all wrecks are preventable. Wrecks happen because the horse wasn’t “sure” and you pushed him past his sureness level.
It’s okay to do that if and only if, you’re a confident rider that isn’t afraid to square up with one that’s being a shithead and ride out a buck or handle a bolt, etc. If you’re a beginner, like me, you are best served spending good money on stock that are really damn “sure” about a lot of things. Don’t try to push a mule beyond what he’s sure about, you’ll lose. Do not buy a $500 horse if you’re a beginner.
Horses do not, under any circumstance, lie. They are as honest as anything put on this earth, so it’s mandatory that you learn to read their body language and avoid picking fights that part time, half ass cowboys like us, damn sure aren’t gonna win. That’s what I love so much about equines. They’re honest. They’re as honest as the day is long. They will tell you in no uncertain terms where they are sure, what they are okay with and what they are not okay with. So once you learn to toe that line and recognize their level of “sureness” about something (elk blood, fly spray, tarps, creek crossings, bear hydes, a crouper, etc), you will avoid nearly every wreck long before it happens and they will start to trust you.
I’ve logged about 125 trail miles since May. My mule is legged up, but I’m damn sure not with this dad bod
Well saidI think that as a person gets older it is common to look to horses to extend your range and time in the backcountry. In many cases I believe that they have higher odds of shortening your hunting career than extending it. That being said I am not ready to get rid of mine quite yet, but he really hasn't extended my range. It used to be that there was a great advantage to going deep but now a days the deeper you go the less game there is. In my area at least.
Lately I find myself killing elk where I don't need a horse or often where I can't take a horse because of terrain or blow down, or because you can't get a horse trailer near as close as you can drive a truck. I have had horses off and on for many years and we used to pack some elk out with them. My son and I have had a horse each for the last 5 years and while my family has killed 12 or more elk during that time, 1 horse has packed 1/2 of an elk 1 time. They have packed sheds and have taken us places that we wouldn't have walked though.
Bottom line is horses are not nearly the advantage that they were when I was a kid. You just have to like having them. This is in the area that I hunt, I am sure that there are still places where they are very desirable.
I think that as a person gets older it is common to look to horses to extend your range and time in the backcountry.
There is a guy from Penna that did a video about 5 friends/people he knew that were very experienced riders that came to tragic ends. All 5 were killed in some type of never anticipated accident. You should try to find that video and watch it carefully. Shtz can happen, no matter what you do.
Horses have personality, like all living things. 4x4 and SxS are just inanimate machines. Personally, I am attracted to experiencing life with personality. It's why I prefer hunting rather than watching a movie. Real life rather than artificial creations. I never know what will happen when I'm hunting, and yes, to some extent when riding a horse. Maybe I don't know what the end of the movie will be, but does it matter? No. I'm not saying one should dress in black pajamas and jog on the interstate at night, but don't be afraid to experience the variety of life just because there's a teeny bit of risk involved.I don't do horses.
Dangerous at both ends and crafty in the middle.