PrairieHunter
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If that helps you cope go for it.
Would be easier to just admit that your statement about people being on the street without NR hunters might have been an exaggeration.
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If that helps you cope go for it.
Prairiehunter I sincerely apologies for my hyperbolic comment.If that helps you cope go for it.
Would be easier to just admit that your statement about people being on the street without NR hunters might have been an exaggeration.
Yeah. Really stirred the pot by pointing out that businesses rely on revenue in order to employ people. Residents aren’t going to spend more in these businesses just because us filthy, no good shooting, littering, worthless non residents aren’t allowed anymore hahahaPrairiehunter I sincerely apologies for my hyperbolic comment.
Yeah. Really stirred the pot by pointing out that businesses rely on revenue in order to employ people. Residents aren’t going to spend more in these businesses just because us filthy, no good shooting, littering, worthless non residents aren’t allowed anymore hahaha
So yesterday I was reading about how areas of Wyoming cattle ranches private land was being over run by Elk and the need to bring herds in to line with state numbers . So reading here some on this thread want to decrease NR hunters how is this going to help the over population of the Elk hearts not like there are hundreds of thousands moving to Wyoming every year. Might be best to not try and run out NR hunters who by the way do in fact bring in a lot of revenue to small towns. Maybe putting some type of charge for NR camping and Back packing a sticker purchased for each individual or vehicle could work with cost and ticket 4 times the cost of the sticker.yeah......you're just regurgitating a sentiment that out of state hunters pass around in order to give themselves value. Don't need your $.
Because 10% is an industry standard that many States think is appropriate.Why not all? Why give them 10%?
Clearly there is some difference in stated quotas and actual tags issued……. a bit of perception vs. reality also. Not so tough to find another state, just look at Colorado. Pretty good access to tags, even NR LQ tags. Granted Colorado opportunities differ from Wyoming in many ways.Because 10% is an industry standard that many States think is appropriate.
Also, Wyoming has never held NR's to even anything close to 10%, including LQ tags here.
Nobody bothers, in particular NR's with their hair on fire, to look at the actual number of licenses that NR's obtain in Wyoming. Its nowhere near 20% of deer or pronghorn, nowhere near 16% of elk either.
Plus, the deer tags are region wide, and those numbers are based on anything to do with a percentage and there are thousands of them for NR hunters.
If you want to hear some real NR crying, set strict limits on the 16% of elk and 20% of deer and pronghorn tags and not allow any more than that.
Fact is, NR's have had, and will continue to have it good even if 90-10 were to pass for all species.
There is a total misunderstanding of the generosity of WY in regard to NR hunters, its tough to find another state that gives access to tags like we do.
Show me another State that issues over half of their LQ pronghorn tags to NR's...for starters.
I’ve not seen it directly answered or asked but if Wyoming does go 90-10 for pronghorn what is the proposal to issue the tags that non residents used to get? Will residents be able to just buy the leftovers? Will there be a cap on the number of tags a resident can have?Because 10% is an industry standard that many States think is appropriate.
Also, Wyoming has never held NR's to even anything close to 10%, including LQ tags here.
Nobody bothers, in particular NR's with their hair on fire, to look at the actual number of licenses that NR's obtain in Wyoming. Its nowhere near 20% of deer or pronghorn, nowhere near 16% of elk either.
Plus, the deer tags are region wide, and those numbers are based on anything to do with a percentage and there are thousands of them for NR hunters.
If you want to hear some real NR crying, set strict limits on the 16% of elk and 20% of deer and pronghorn tags and not allow any more than that.
Fact is, NR's have had, and will continue to have it good even if 90-10 were to pass for all species.
There is a total misunderstanding of the generosity of WY in regard to NR hunters, its tough to find another state that gives access to tags like we do.
Show me another State that issues over half of their LQ pronghorn tags to NR's...for starters.
WY issues at least 70% of tags to Residents right?wllm, most residents I know hunt public land. We lucked into private access for some of our hunting about 30 years ago by working for a rancher. Many residents can get access for cow elk, pronghorn and whitetails but bull elk and mule deer are hard to come by for residents too.
We put in for LQ elk every year on public land, some LQ deer licenses too on public. Our pronghorn hunting is on public lands for the most part.
These days I don't know many folks that hunt private lands exclusively unless they work for, or are related to a rancher. Long time friends can still get access, respect of the land does go a long way.
I don't complain about the number of NR hunters or license plates.WY issues at least 70% of tags to Residents right?
Folks complain about seeing all NR plates at trailheads.
So where are the residents hunting?
Care to show me where I complained about NR at trail heads? I don't hunt from trail heads I walk in from camp or where ever I pull over.WY issues at least 70% of tags to Residents right?
Folks complain about seeing all NR plates at trailheads.
So where are the residents hunting?
Good try at getting resident hunting spots though.
Can you elaborate how it works now? I assume residents have multiple choices and there are units/tags they aren't designating on their primary application? I agree with the premise NR should be limited to the quota.Heck , give NRs the same quota they have now just no resident roll over from our 1st draw. Give residents a leftover draw before the NR draw. Then you get a chance at what is left from our draws. NRs will get their full 16% and possibly more of the total quota.
Not all residents have been advocating for 90/10.
You did not... but it's a common refrain in every western state, fair statement?Care to show me where I complained about NR at trail heads? I don't hunt from trail heads I walk in from camp or where ever I pull over.
Not Idaho. The lifetime license guarantees you a NR tag, even if the cap has been met. It does not get you access to a Resident tag.Sorry but you can buy a resident hunting licenses in states you have a lifetime license even if you don't live in that state currently.
Some places I'm sure that's true, I don't really hear it a lot here honestly; I heard and felt that way more in MT. You'll have a handful of written comments along those lines during season setting, etc. but not a lot. By far my biggest personal hassle is outfitters, which I guess is tangentially related. Though the good ones seem to have no trouble communicating like adults and working to share the space....You did not... but it's a common refrain in every western state, fair statement?