I would not cross at any place but the pin. You may be correct that it would be hard to convict you in criminal court, but if landowner deep pocket takes you to civil court the burden of prof is much lower. The damages of crossing ten feet from the corner are likely slight, but it will cost you hundreds of thousands. Hunters need to be careful and cross only at the pin. Failure to do so will build momentum for those that want to ban corner crossing legislatively.
What about the immoral hunter? Everyone is here talking about landowners removing pins, how long until a hunter puts one in?
Would have to banned at the Federal level...the States in the 10th circuit can pass all the state laws they want about corner crossing, but they wouldn't mean a thing.
Not only is your GPS receiver not accurate but the coordinates of the corner are not likely accurate. The coordinates of the corners rely on the BLM's Geographic Coordinate Data Base, GCDB. If a corner marker has GPS data tied directly to it, it is accurate. If it is tied by a survey, directly to another monument that has direct GPS data it is pretty accurate. All other corners are tied by combining survey data with varying degrees of accuracy. So, the farther from a direct tie the less accurate the GPS data. When we used GCDB to locate corners we usually got to within 60 ft. Close enough to find the marker but not close enough to say this is the corner.
In particular in areas that crossing one corner opens up a larger block.
I think that would be very unwise and probably pretty darn expensive. Probably a federal violation.What about the immoral hunter? Everyone is here talking about landowners removing pins, how long until a hunter puts one in?
We are on the same page. What I mean by “their” is their deeded land.
Yes, because the judge cited the Unlawful Enclosures Act (federal law) and determined that it (obviously) trumps Wyoming state law. This is quite the precedent for opening up corner crossing outside of the 10th circuit, which is a pretty conservative court.
If you are a public land hunter legally and respectfully crossing at a corner, BHA will stand with you.
My wife and I own 12 acres. There's one corner that consists of a large stone. It's been surveyed by the previous owner and a neighbor. There's 2 wood laths sitting beside it, one looks 10 years older than the other.I am no expert, but I used to work for a surveyor friend on my days off from my regular job.
Land surveys are a matter of historical data and all surveys must be filed at the county courthouse in the locale where they exist.
When a surveyor begins a new survey he (or she) must start from a known point, ie: an existing survey marker or monument.
Some of the older surveys we researched as starting points were actually worded as such: "seventeen paces North of the large boulder at the corner of -______. (As an example)
Those survey markers/points ARE what the law must go buy if that is the registered historical data point.
Many, many fences are not on property lines due to uneven terrain, waterways, or even inethical landowners.
Onx obtains their property lines and corners from the local county courthouse's written historical records, thus if there is a mistake in identifying a corner properly it would either fall on Onx or the county recorder as being negligent in accurate data entry or preservation. In wither case one would hope they have proper protections or insurance in such cases.
This is just from my 10,000' view and I am not a land lawyer or legal expert... but I did sleep at a Holiday Inn once.
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Fences brother.
Makes no sense.
