Conservation or Big Beautiful Ballrooms?

[Irrelevant]

I dont always agree with any of them on what they stand against - but i cant stomach someone that doesnt have the conviction to take a position for their constituents simply because their "leader" said no.

I recently wrote my 3 federal level reps/sen and made this point. You are three different humans, you shouldn't have to same voting records

 

[Bonasababy]

The beauty of a President handing out pardons and other "get out of jail" cards is this only covers Federal matters. If a state, say New York, brings state charges against someone, even someone proudly holding up a purty piece of paper with DJT scribbled EKG-style on it, then that court case can still lead to a stay in the grey bar hotel.

Alas, the fortunes piled up by the freight train load will likely never be torn loose. Generational wealth will remain safely stowed away for a few 1000 insiders through stock market manipulation, prop betting, and sweet no-bid contracts.

Another factor, the justice system is glacially slow. So, likely some of the insiders simply pass from old age before a conviction is won and defended on appeal after appeal after appeal. Generational wealth can cover the fees of several law firms.

Fortunately, names can be removed from buildings, airports, currency, passports, statues, etc, rather quickly. Much faster than the Epstein Files can be released and suspects actually investigated much less put away in jail, hopefully in the general population quadrant.

We are getting what we deserve after so many voted against their own interests so could wear red hats (only 29.99 if order today) and be part of an exciting movement which has since steam-rolled some of those eager participants called to duty earlier by the siren song of "not your fault, you are being persecuted, there is now someone who really cares about you, is going to be great again, a chicken in every pot and a lifted Ford F150 with a giant desecrated flag in every driveway" that turned out to instead be a parade of new tariffs we all pay rather than China, new armed conflicts that go "on pause" while things still go boom, not America First as allow China to buy American farm land again, high gas and fertilizer costs, inflation heating up so home loans are even more expensive, etc. But, dang, that red hat is quite dapper!!

If you told me 50 years ago that a cheating husband with mistresses and kids by multiple women who is not a church-goer and talks about grabbing private parts of females without permission and dodged military service with bone spur malarkey yet called a former POW a loser for being captured....would get overwhelming support of Evangelicals and veterans then I would have laughed at you. No way. Not in a million years. You can only fool a fool and, never mind. I saw it with my own eyes.

Am excited to see how far things so off the rails during the rest of my days here on Earth. I fear these are the good old days compared to what is around the corner. Time to stock up on popcorn. There is not a tariff on popcorn, right? I with sit by my keyboard anxiously awaiting all the great manufacturing jobs returning to America as we all know a man's word is as good as gold, er, a gold ballroom. Hey Buddy, can you spare a billion?

Example on your first point. If it survives the challenge, Trump cant pardon...and I suspect many states will look for opportunities to charge under state laws...and enact new ones no one ever suspected would be needed.

https://www.startribune.com/ice-agent-charged-in-shooting-of-man-in-north-minneapolis-during-operation-metro-surge/601843874?utm_source=gift

 

[Bonasababy]

I can't tell if this is satire or not.

I heard an incredulous federal legislator say he thought it was a story in the Onion.

 

[SAJ-99]

I recently wrote my 3 federal level reps/sen and made this point. You are three different humans, you shouldn't have to same voting records

Here are the first three sentences of what my rep ran on in the 2024 pamphlet. I can't wait for the new 2026 version. Something about eggs I guess? I doubt it will say gas prices are higher but suck it up because Trump doesn't care. I know he is very proud of the "tax cuts". I made sure to note to him that the "out of control taxes" he cited were from Trump I.

"Today, things are going in the wrong direction. Government spending and taxes are out of control. The result is inflation and rising prices putting a squeeze on hardworking families..."

I also pointed out that this year one of the candidates for an open seat in MT also used the "going in the wrong direction" line despite Rs being in complete charge for the entire time. Fear sells.

The vast majority of Rs could spend $100 on 15gal to fill up their tank on their way to the voting booth in November and vote the same way they did 2 years ago.

 

[SAJ-99]

Trump supporters at this point are mostly just retards, Israelis, pedophiles and boomers.

The racists are probably offended you left them out.

 

[SaskHunter]

The racists are probably offended you left them out.

They would be soooooo pissed if they could read that!!!

 

[TOGIE]

meanwhile all the gubernatorial ads i see in colorado right now seem to focus entirely on who has resisted trump the most and who will resist trump the hardest going forward. i'm not sure i've heard anything else.

just as pathetic.

i do think trump could be making a strategic blunder with his intensive and retribution based primary campaign e.g. vanquishing massie. installing extreme maga's at the expense of palatable republicans could hurt the Rs midterms chances overall more than otherwise. the swing voters do come out in november.

who knows.

 

[jimh406]

There are only two parties. Sure, pretend if you want that there are independents. Choose a side. Sometimes they will do what you want and sometimes not.

 

[406dn]

This goes back a ways. Many might remember when Justus Township was in the news.

A co-worker at the refinery was a nephew of one of the principals in the showdown. Anyway, while the turmoil after the 2000 election recount in Florida was going on, he brought a sample to the lab. It was not too often that he and I spoke, since we both knew each other's politics. I asked him what he thought about the election uncertainty.

He replied it did not matter. Both of them were Communists, in his opinion.

It depends a lot on your individual viewpoint, where you see others, on the political spectrum. He was far enough from Bush and Gore, to see them exactly the same... Communists.

So, from where I stand there is still a difference between the parties. Neither is perfect. Presently, imo, one is off the rails. We need to have competing parties, to resolve the inevitable differences our society will always have. Both sides need the other, to keep them from their worst impulses.

I just turned 75, and in all of my memory, we have not been this phucked up.