Changes to MT Upland Season - Resident Priority Takes Effect This Year

[8andcounting]

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Well the share of NR harvest of MD by percentage has almost increased 60% in the last 20 years.

So - i think its safe to say if the mule deer are declining and residents are getting and smaller share, its time to do something for R.

Most R would say on a survey things are fine they want know change other then to get 7 tags again instead of 3

 

[Forkyfinder]

Most R would say on a survey things are fine they want know change other then to get 7 tags again instead of 3

Theyre harvesting less bucks than 2006.

 

[8andcounting]

Theyre harvesting less bucks than 2006.

maybe they should shoot a buck instead of 7 does ?

 

[brockel]

Most R would say on a survey things are fine they want know change other then to get 7 tags again instead of 3

Most residents will complain about non residents and how they need to cut their tags. Seriously most won’t even entertain the idea of season changes until non residents take the first hit. Right or wrong that’s the truth

 

[8andcounting]

Most residents will complain about non residents and how they need to cut their tags. Seriously most won’t even entertain the idea of season changes until non residents take the first hit. Right or wrong that’s the truth

I’m in agreement with them on this part Cut our tags . Or at very least make NR tags regional . But it’s gonna take both R and NR to make real change .

 

[MTTW]

Theyre harvesting less bucks than 2006.

These days most residents I know now eat elk and rarely kill a mule deer, myself included. That has changed in the last 20 years.

The last several years I have had about as many opportunities to kill a bull elk as I have had to kill a buck mule deer in the areas that I hunt in SW MT.

 

[SAJ-99]

Most residents will complain about non residents and how they need to cut their tags. Seriously most won’t even entertain the idea of season changes until non residents take the first hit. Right or wrong that’s the truth

Do the residents realize that NRs don’t have a say in the matter?

 

[brockel]

Do the residents realize that NRs don’t have a say in the matter?

Their complaint is more at FWP allowing so many NRs with the resource like it is than it is at the actual NR

 

[Gerald Martin]

Their complaint is more at FWP allowing so many NRs with the resource like it is than it is at the actual NR

Their frustration should be aimed at the Legislature . Other than the quota increases and decreases for antlerless tags the Legislature is who passed increases to ES tags, ,not FWP

 

[brockel]

Their frustration should be aimed at the Legislature . Other than the quota increases and decreases for antlerless tags the Legislature is who passed increases to ES tags, ,not FWP

Yet there’s zero fight from FWP and every year they tell us everything great. Go to their Facebook pages and watch their mule deer videos they are putting out. We are in the golden years. FWP fought the mule deer doe tags not being valid on public land too. I’d say alot of frustration should be aimed at fwp

 

[WyoCoalMiner]

Edit: @BuzzH have the NR deer quotas decreased as a percentage of total tags over the last 10 years?

For the Regions he posted, the NR quotas have been slashed over the last 20 years.

 

[brockel]

For the Regions he posted, the NR quotas have been slashed over the last 20 years.
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What have resident numbers looked like in that same timeframe?

 

[WyoCoalMiner]

What have resident numbers looked like in that same timeframe?

That will take more time. G&F surveys res hunters on which units they hunted. So one hunter could hunt multiple units within a region. So the information gives a misleading view of how many resident hunters hunted a given region. This was the best that Chat cold come up with over the last 6 years. I think that took about 50 gallons of water to process.


I think this does possibly point to resident hunters doing a decent job of regulating themselves on where they hunt given the conditions of the herds and the many options they have to them. I am confident that had the G&F left NR G&H gen license quotas at 2,000 each year for the last 20 years, every one of them would have been sold.

 

[brockel]

For the Regions he posted, the NR quotas have been slashed over the last 20 years.
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Nice to see a state care more about the animals than the dollars

 

[Ben Lamb]

So yeah,

About those birds.

 

[Forkyfinder]

Nice to see a state care more about the animals than the dollars

Think they have a 1/3rd of the lobbyists in cheyenne that we do in helena.

Taking out the trash, or rather letting it stay out of state with its out of state interests would help.

Do way more to help wildlife to help regulate the crooks trying to steal it each session than to change anything about any season.

 

[Forkyfinder]

Their frustration should be aimed at the Legislature . Other than the quota increases and decreases for antlerless tags the Legislature is who passed increases to ES tags, ,not FWP

Lobbyists. Moga. And the legislators (some residents too, turns out) that spend their days fellating both.

 

[Forkyfinder]

I think this does possibly point to resident hunters doing a decent job of regulating themselves on where they hunt given the conditions of the herds and the many options they have to them.

Absolutely it does.

Moving all the seasons around so that the real commodfied wildlife in the state (elk) can be readily shot will do wonder$ for some.

 

[WyoCoalMiner]

Lobbyists. Moga. And the legislators (some residents too, turns out) that spend their days fellating both.

Over the years , at season setting meetings for Wyo, I have seen residents, Outfitters and legislators all advocate for NR license reductions in these regions. Its not universal, but the outfitters have been some of the most vocal folks asking for reductions.

 

[Forkyfinder]

Over the years , at season setting meetings for Wyo, I have seen residents, Outfitters and legislators all advocate for NR license reductions in these regions. Its not universal, but the outfitters have been some of the most vocal folks asking for reductions.

Man. Wish we had that.

Theres 200k more montanans today than 06 - choosing to kill less mule deer. This threads full of "restrict residents too" but "dont go le"

All a bunch of games for an even longer season were somehow even more elk get killed.