Camping trip incident

[Irrelevant]

Ok, you've all made me feel better. Thanks for the free therapy sess.

Now...?
1. small and portable, something for concealed carry and or backpacking/hunting. Pro: small enough I might actually bring it places, no worries about WA dumb 10 round rule. Con: not good for grizz, probably not that accurate.
2. normal size just for car/boat camping, common cartridge. Pro: better accuracy, ease of shooting, cheaper. Con: not small, make get left behind more.
3. 10mm auto for grizz, or anything else that crosses my path. Pro: all the gun needed for anything Con: heavier, spendy, more recoil than I would want, can't get more than a 10 round mag.
4. wheel gun, 45 or 357. Pro: always goes bang, potentially better accuracy, looks cool Con: very heavy, intense recoil, probably not actually going to take it very many places.

 

[Straight Arrow]

Small Smith & Wesson five shot 357, also fires 38 Special. 38 spcl birdshot in the butt or knee won't kill the threat, but the asshat will always remember to be more respectful!

 

[Sheltowee]

Ok, you've all made me feel better. Thanks for the free therapy sess.

Now...?
1. small and portable, something for concealed carry and or backpacking/hunting. Pro: small enough I might actually bring it places, no worries about WA dumb 10 round rule. Con: not good for grizz, probably not that accurate.
2. normal size just for car/boat camping, common cartridge. Pro: better accuracy, ease of shooting, cheaper. Con: not small, make get left behind more.
3. 10mm auto for grizz, or anything else that crosses my path. Pro: all the gun needed for anything Con: heavier, spendy, more recoil than I would want, can't get more than a 10 round mag.
4. wheel gun, 45 or 357. Pro: always goes bang, potentially better accuracy, looks cool Con: very heavy, intense recoil, probably not actually going to take it very many places.

https://us.glock.com/en/pistols/g29-gen5

This would tick boxes 1, 2 and 3 and give you better ballistic performance than 4. They aren't a ton of fun to shoot with heavy loads but perfectly manageable with range ammo. I compare it to shooting a short-barreled .357Mag revolver. Buy a mag extension for better purchase with your pinkie (I like the Pearce Grip one), add a set of XS Big Dot sites go forth and prosper. I carry mine as a hunting sidearm, when hiking back in the boondocks and during the winter as a concealable city carry piece.

 

[Forkyfinder]

Ok, you've all made me feel better. Thanks for the free therapy sess.

Now...?
1. small and portable, something for concealed carry and or backpacking/hunting. Pro: small enough I might actually bring it places, no worries about WA dumb 10 round rule. Con: not good for grizz, probably not that accurate.
2. normal size just for car/boat camping, common cartridge. Pro: better accuracy, ease of shooting, cheaper. Con: not small, make get left behind more.
3. 10mm auto for grizz, or anything else that crosses my path. Pro: all the gun needed for anything Con: heavier, spendy, more recoil than I would want, can't get more than a 10 round mag.
4. wheel gun, 45 or 357. Pro: always goes bang, potentially better accuracy, looks cool Con: very heavy, intense recoil, probably not actually going to take it very many places.

Id get a full size 10mm and a concealed carry model in 9mm. Lots of companies make reliable ones. Put a light on the gun for the woods/hunting.

A small pistol in 10mm is a handful.

Wife should now see the justification. Make it into 2 guns

 

[TOGIE]

Ok, you've all made me feel better. Thanks for the free therapy sess.

Now...?
1. small and portable, something for concealed carry and or backpacking/hunting. Pro: small enough I might actually bring it places, no worries about WA dumb 10 round rule. Con: not good for grizz, probably not that accurate.
2. normal size just for car/boat camping, common cartridge. Pro: better accuracy, ease of shooting, cheaper. Con: not small, make get left behind more.
3. 10mm auto for grizz, or anything else that crosses my path. Pro: all the gun needed for anything Con: heavier, spendy, more recoil than I would want, can't get more than a 10 round mag.
4. wheel gun, 45 or 357. Pro: always goes bang, potentially better accuracy, looks cool Con: very heavy, intense recoil, probably not actually going to take it very many places.

single stack 9 for the road, full size banger for the home, and bear spray for the bears, don't be silly.

 

[elkduds]

Did this toolbag eff up your kids' raft? That would be an additional illegal act. A ? for you, @Irrelevant : What if anything would you have done differently if you were heeled?

 

[Irrelevant]

bear spray for the bears, don't be silly.

2 cans get you 14 secs of total protection. Then what?

I'm still going to carry can/s.

 

[Irrelevant]

Did this toolbag eff up your kids' raft? That would be an additional illegal act. A ? for you, @Irrelevant : What if anything would you have done differently if you were heeled?

I wouldn't have left.
That may or may not have been a good choice

 

[TOGIE]

2 cans get you 14 secs of total protection. Then what?

I'm still going to carry can/a.

7 seconds of on target spray should buy you quite a bit of time, if not all the time you need.

don't i'd still be carrying a bear gun too. i'd go 454 personally.

 

[Matthew57]

Id get a full size 10mm and a concealed carry model in 9mm. Lots of companies make reliable ones. Put a light on the gun for the woods/hunting.

A small pistol in 10mm is a handful.

Wife should now see the justification. Make it into 2 guns

Yep, this is the route I went

 

[elkduds]

I wouldn't have left.
That may or may not have been a good choice

Pure speculation. Nobody got hurt, might be otherwise if things got Western. I guess someone else will have to shoot that jackwagon.

 

[ismith]

Small Smith & Wesson five shot 357, also fires 38 Special. 38 spcl birdshot in the butt or knee won't kill the threat, but the asshat will always remember to be more respectful!


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Never shoot to wound.

 

[cgasner1]

Never shoot to wound.

No one needs to hear the “other side” of the story

 

[The_Jim]

I wouldn't have left.
That may or may not have been a good choice

I think your mindset with carrying isn't quite right. There is a 50% chance you won't be the winner in that gunfight and if you were to be the "winner" do you really want to live with that the rest of your life?

I carry when I'm with my family a fair amount of the time. I ignored states that don't reciprocate with mine because it is so important to me, but I've always wondered if I would even be able to pull the trigger to take another man's life if it came down to that. As much as people can suck, avoiding that conflict is always going to be my priority.

 

[rjthehunter]

No one needs to hear the “other side” of the story

My CCW instructor drove home the point of "Dead men tell no tales". It's harder for them to put you in jail when they're dead.

He had a stat that showed your odds of being "found innocent" are a lot lower if the person you shoot is still alive. They usually try to get their revenge in the courtroom.

I think your mindset with carrying isn't quite right. There is a 50% chance you won't be the winner in that gunfight and if you were to be the "winner" do you really want to live with that the rest of your life?

I carry when I'm with my family a fair amount of the time. I ignored states that don't reciprocate with mine because it is so important to me, but I've always wondered if I would even be able to pull the trigger to take another man's life if it came down to that. As much as people can suck, avoiding that conflict is always going to be my priority.

That's why you conceal. Your odds of winning go up a lot when the other person doesn't know you have a gun.

Always avoid situations, but never hesitate if/when you have to use deadly force.




My carry is a S&W M&P Shield 2.0 in 9mm. If I'm hunting, it's a S&W M&P 2.0 10mm. I'm familiar with the M&P lineup so it makes it pretty easy to switch between my 9mm & 10mm even though they have different frame sizes.

Practice shooting, practice drawing, spend plenty of time learning local laws, and pray you never have to use any of it.

 

[Dougfirtree]

Ugh. What a prick and what a bummer for your family. I think you handled it well.

 

[Fire_9]

Buy a 9 mm of whatever flavor you want and carry it for everything including bears

 

[COEngineer]

You did well to remove your family from danger. I would have probably been tempted to drop the family off and go back (preferably with some friends, preferably armed) and just watch for an opportunity to get a better look at his boat registration, and/or discretely follow him back to get his truck plates, etc. I'm sure you didn't sleep anyway, may as well spend the sleepless night watching/waiting?

If you had confronted him, he most likely would have backed-down, most bullies do, but it's not worth finding out the hard way.

 

[Irrelevant]

I think your mindset with carrying isn't quite right.

I'm not saying that's a good logical choice, I was just answering the question. I would have stayed, I think. Maybe I would have still erred on the safe side. IDK. You can't live two realities at the same time.

 

[peeshaunn]

Your firearm should be hidden until its time to make use of it , IMO