Bill barring permits in MO Breaks and other districts pops up

[Spartan_Eric]

In fairness, General tags don't use your points, so you will still have 18 elk points in your MWFP account there just wont be any limited units to use them on.

That was my facetious point. Accumulated bonus points would largely become irrelevant because in the aftermath there would be nothing worthwhile to use them on in terms of quality elk.

 

[Ben Lamb]

I'm not giving up on Montana, and will be opposed to all the bad ideas coming out of the funhouse every step of the way.Even if they succeed.

Rally as many people as possible and show up.

They are banking on people not coming to committee hearings. That's the entire reason why the set the rules as they did. The majority party in Montana doesn't give two shits what the average hunter thinks. They made their deal with UT money launderers & outfitters. The votes are pre-decided and the public hearing is a formality. It's process for process sake, and they don't want your opinion.

DIY resident hunters are not anything to them.

The only way these bills die is if there is a massive uprising of Montanans. Or if Nonresidents boycott the state & crater FWP funding. The only way you will matter to them is if you show up in force.

 

[Art Vandeley]

Sheesh this is ridiculous.

How can we prevent elk that spend 99% of their time on the N Bar, Horse Ranch, Galt Ranch Etc. being counted in the district populations?

 

[Ben Lamb]

Sheesh this is ridiculous.

How can we prevent elk that spend 99% of their time on the N Bar, Horse Ranch, Galt Ranch Etc. being counted in the district populations?

Quit voting for Republicans.

 

[EYJONAS!]

Sheesh this is ridiculous.

How can we prevent elk that spend 99% of their time on the N Bar, Horse Ranch, Galt Ranch Etc. being counted in the district populations?

Spotlights and cross bows...... duh

 

[Dougfirtree]

Quit voting for Republicans.

Give it to me straight, doc.

 

[Deleted member 28227]

Guess you should've moved back to Montana to witness the end of the world vs Manhattan huh?

I'll shoot one for you ol buddy....

Yeah have at them, I will feast on sanctimony and hang pharisaical moral indignation on my wall.

 

[Deleted member 28227]

Did all the government people in MT just do a bunch of coke and decide they hate nature? That's what it kind of seems like at this point.

To Ben's point, you (Montanans) voted for people who said they were in favor of crazy shit... but now you surprised they did some crazy shit?

 

[TheTone]

Quit voting for Republicans.

But guns and small government and fake news and...

 

[lpshunter29]

To Ben's point, you (Montanans) voted for people who said they were in favor of crazy shit... but now you surprised they did some crazy shit?

I'm in Colorado so I'm just lookin at this with no experience with these people. Just looking at the stuff recently. Seems pretty wack.

 

[Ben Lamb]

I'm in Colorado so I'm just lookin at this with no experience with these people. Just looking at the stuff recently. Seems pretty wack.

it is a combination of political payback to outfitters who bankrolled some of the dark money attacks in favor of Republicans, and a pent up frustration relative to having their anti-North American Model agenda shoved down their throats for the last 16 years. They're like a kid who just got an unlimited pass to a Nevada whorehouse, and they're going to ride all the rides at once.

It's an orgiastic explosion of self-interest & hate on the part of the outfitters & GOP.

I keep waiting for the good conservationists I know in the GOP to show up, but they're not there yet. Probably won't ever be now.

 

[tjones]

Sheesh this is ridiculous.

How can we prevent elk that spend 99% of their time on the N Bar, Horse Ranch, Galt Ranch Etc. being counted in the district populations?

Page 55 of the EMP deals with this exactly but no one wants to read or follow it.

 

[RidgeRoamingRichard]

My votes in montana merely cancel out my dad's.

 

[Deleted member 28227]

I'm in Colorado so I'm just lookin at this with no experience with these people. Just looking at the stuff recently. Seems pretty wack.

Well we elected a wing nut from Florida so we got that going for us...

 

[BourbonSnowCone]

Quit voting for Republicans.

I've been trying to convince every like-minded hunter I know of this for awhile. I don't care how you vote at the nationwide level but I'm straight Dem in state elections for all the reasons we're seeing this session. Montana state-level Democrats would be considered moderate Republicans at the national level.

 

[Fire_9]

I wonder if BHA will support this bill since it “increases opportunity”....

 

[lpshunter29]

it is a combination of political payback to outfitters who bankrolled some of the dark money attacks in favor of Republicans, and a pent up frustration relative to having their anti-North American Model agenda shoved down their throats for the last 16 years. They're like a kid who just got an unlimited pass to a Nevada whorehouse, and they're going to ride all the rides at once.

It's an orgiastic explosion of self-interest & hate on the part of the outfitters & GOP.

I keep waiting for the good conservationists I know in the GOP to show up, but they're not there yet. Probably won't ever be now.

Forgive me if I'm out of line, but it seems you've come up with a conspiracy in which outfitters and corrupt politicians have come created a secret society hell bent on destroying hunting in America. I don't doubt the people involved in this bill are crazy, but that seems almost as crazy.

 

[Ben Lamb]

Forgive me if I'm out of line, but it seems you've come up with a conspiracy in which outfitters and corrupt politicians have come created a secret society hell bent on destroying hunting in America. I don't doubt the people involved in this bill are crazy, but that seems almost as crazy.

I spent every odd numbered year in the capitol working for resident hunters since 2009. It's not a secret. It's been in plain sight all along, but it is wasnt until Gianforte got elected that these bills had a path to getting signed.

 

[antlerradar]

Have you considered relocating to Wyoming?

I have decided that he only way to save hunting in SE MT is a petition to be annexed by WY.

 

[Deleted member 20812]

Forgive me if I'm out of line, but it seems you've come up with a conspiracy new political reality in which outfitters and corrupt politicians have come created a secret society hell bent on destroying completely privatizing and commercializing hunting in America Montana. I don't doubt the people involved in this bill are crazy, but that seems almost as crazy like reality.

Took a little editing, but this is better.