Art of The Deal

[406dn]

Joe Biden's get out the vote campaign was second to none. Historians are going to marvel over this 100 years from now.

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You are drawing the wrong conclusion. The massive turnout was an anti-Trump phenomenon. It will happen again this fall in the mid terms. I won't bet a steak dinner, since I still owe you one.

 

[Nick87]

You are drawing the wrong conclusion. The massive turnout was an anti-Trump phenomenon. It will happen again this fall in the mid terms. I won't bet a steak dinner, since I still owe you one.

6 million turned out to vote against someone, not for someone, but then didn't care enough next election? What changed there mind over the following 4 years?

 

[noharleyyet]

You are drawing the wrong conclusion. The massive turnout was an anti-Trump phenomenon. It will happen again this fall in the mid terms. I won't bet a steak dinner, since I still owe you one.

If you like your conclusions you can keep your conclusions…no?

 

[BigHornRam]

You are drawing the wrong conclusion. The massive turnout was an anti-Trump phenomenon. It will happen again this fall in the mid terms. I won't bet a steak dinner, since I still owe you one.

Mid terms will be interesting. If I had to bet today who your 2028 candidate will be, I would bet Kamala, but Mamdani stock is rising quickly.

 

[Irrelevant]

Joe Biden's get out the vote campaign was second to none. Historians are going to marvel over this 100 years from now.

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You mean that we keep "electing" presidents that the majority of people don't actually vote for?

 

[Nick87]

You mean that we keep "electing" presidents that the majority of people don't actually vote for?

We have to keep choosing between what we don't actually want or need.

 

[Nick87]

Mid terms will be interesting. If I had to bet today who your 2028 candidate will be, I would bet Kamala, but Mamdani stock is rising quickly.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/06/30/politics/jd-vance-aoc-2028

I guess you could call it interesting.

 

[Hem]

Im rooting for the US in World Cup tonight.

 

[mtmuley]

Im rooting for the US in World Cup tonight.

I'm ready for football season. mtmuley

 

[Hem]

I'm ready for football season. mtmuley

Yep...but for the time being there isn't much else to root for.

 

[Irrelevant]

6 million turned out to vote against someone, not for someone, but then didn't care enough next election? What changed there mind over the following 4 years?

If you care to read what the research says...

1. Voter turnout, 2020-2024

Overall and across most demographic groups, Trump’s 2020 voters turned out at higher rates in 2024 than Biden’s did, a Pew Research Center analysis shows.

www.pewresearch.org

Not that it matters, but I think 6 million people were alienated by the Biden admin. Some of them switched and voted for Trump, but a lot just chose to stay home. Esp after the debate. This goes to what was said on another thread, no one, or hardly anyone, actually votes for the other team. If you don't like your team's pick, you simply don't vote. In general, that article points to young people being one of the major groups that chose not to vote.

 

[406dn]

Mid terms will be interesting. If I had to bet today who your 2028 candidate will be, I would bet Kamala, but Mamdani stock is rising quickly.

I have a better chance than Kamala. Hell, even Mike Pence is more likely to be a presidential candidate.

Harris was a last second, no time for other options candidate.

 

[Nick87]

If you care to read what the research says...

1. Voter turnout, 2020-2024

Overall and across most demographic groups, Trump’s 2020 voters turned out at higher rates in 2024 than Biden’s did, a Pew Research Center analysis shows.

www.pewresearch.org

Not that it matters, but I think 6 million people were alienated by the Biden admin. Some of them switched and voted for Trump, but a lot just chose to stay home. Esp after the debate. This goes to what was said on another thread, no one, or hardly anyone, actually votes for the other team. If you don't like your team's pick, you simply don't vote. In general, that article points to young people being one of the major groups that chose not to vote.

The same people that voted for the 1st time in There life producing record turn out, for practically the same two candidates said nah, I'm not voting? That's what the the research says so..I guess so. ( ftr im not saying anything about stolen elections, but none of that makes any sense to me).

 

[Redmt]

Vote early, vote often.
I try to vote for the candidate that can do something for ME and not against me. Anything above state Senator is a waste of time because they couldn't give a shit less about what I need or want.

 

[mtmuley]

Yep...but for the time being there isn't much else to root for.

I just can't get into soccer. Tried. No. mtmuley

 

[Hem]

I just can't get into soccer. Tried. No. mtmuley

I like the international aspect.
Wish I could run remotely like them.

 

[mtmuley]

I like the international aspect.
Wish I could run remotely like them.

I can. I'm like a gazelle kinda. mtmuley

 

[Redmt]

I just can't get into soccer. Tried. No. mtmuley

I heard it's 2-4k for a ticket?! Not for this old guy.

 

[Hem]

I can. I'm like a gazelle kinda. mtmuley

Sure Muley.

 

[Irrelevant]

The same people that voted for the 1st time in There life producing record literature turn out, for practically the same two candidates said nah, I'm not voting? That's what the the research says so..I guess so. ( ftr im not saying anything about stolen elections, but none of that makes any sense to me).

Did you read it? Maybe you'll draw different conclusions than I did.