Anybody Buying Yet? Where’s the Bottom?

I'm not sure if I'm more surprised gas has "felt" higher in the past, or just how rampant inflation has been the last few years to make $5 gas not seem so bad. That 2008 spike is crazy.
Inflation adjusted equivalent of $120 oil in 2008 (and it was briefly close to $150) means oil today would have to be closer to $170. That spike was crazy. The lack of a spike this time is crazy too but was driven by emptying the SPR. Check back if Iran hits that Saudi pipeline.
 
Cheap money lowered measured inflation? Your man Milton Friedman would like a word or two on that.
Measured inflation by your "experts". Funny the "great recession" was brought on by bad lending practices, and the experts solution was to make borrowing costs even cheaper, especially for those that didn't really need to borrow. Then you bitch about the rich getting richer and how the system is rigged against the working folks. You never seem to be happy!
 
This post is spot on but you will never be able to convince a MAGA voter that Trump is helping China more than hurting it. And Canada isn't the problem. The increased influence across Africa would be my largest concern.
China has been raping African countries for years. Mostly for resources used to manufacture green energy components, which were then sold to first world countries foolish enough to buy their junk. Canada has a rocky economy and a high unemployment rate right now. Trading with China will not improve their economic issues, only make them worse. It's Canada's choice to make.
 
Measured inflation by your "experts". Funny the "great recession" was brought on by bad lending practices, and the experts solution was to make borrowing costs even cheaper, especially for those that didn't really need to borrow. Then you bitch about the rich getting richer and how the system is rigged against the working folks. You never seem to be happy!
I don't bitch about the rich getting richer. That's the American way. I might bitch about the rich getting richer and not wanting to pay taxes. I made it known that my feeling was interest rates were too low for too long (two periods actually 2004 and 2011), but I didn't complain to you, for obvious reasons. And I am quite happy.

Again, no one can convince you of anything that doesn't fit your beliefs. Even if given data to refute it, you just say the data is wrong (i.e. Measured inflation by your "experts"). You are clearly the 1 in 3 that think all this is going great. My only claim is no one will change your mind, ever.
 
I don't bitch about the rich getting richer. That's the American way. I might bitch about the rich getting richer and not wanting to pay taxes. I made it known that my feeling was interest rates were too low for too long (two periods actually 2004 and 2011), but I didn't complain to you, for obvious reasons. And I am quite happy.

Again, no one can convince you of anything that doesn't fit your beliefs. Even if given data to refute it, you just say the data is wrong (i.e. Measured inflation by your "experts"). You are clearly the 1 in 3 that think all this is going great. My only claim is no one will change your mind, ever.
But no bitching about the low interest rates in 2021/2022 when inflation was "transitory" according to the experts. The world has some serious issues to work out going forward. Anyone that thinks all is great is a fool. Anyone that thinks socialism is the answer is an even bigger fool.
 
But no bitching about the low interest rates in 2021/2022 when inflation was "transitory" according to the experts. The world has some serious issues to work out going forward. Anyone that thinks all is great is a fool. Anyone that thinks socialism is the answer is an even bigger fool.
Don’t tell me that.
 
Inflation adjusted equivalent of $120 oil in 2008 (and it was briefly close to $150) means oil today would have to be closer to $170. That spike was crazy. The lack of a spike this time is crazy too but was driven by emptying the SPR. Check back if Iran hits that Saudi pipeline.
Agreed. For those familiar, SPR stands for strategic petroleum reserve. Supposed to be used to get us through a short term emergency. Reserves are lower now, nothing is settled in Iran, in fact they have been handed power few suspected they could wield before the war.
 
But no bitching about the low interest rates in 2021/2022 when inflation was "transitory" according to the experts. The world has some serious issues to work out going forward. Anyone that thinks all is great is a fool. Anyone that thinks socialism is the answer is an even bigger fool.
There is always some difference between what is good for us as individuals and what is good for the country. I took advantage of lower rates in 21 to build and take out a mortgage on our place. Socialism sure has been redefined lately by Trump Kool aid drinkers! Who seem to be pretty selective in what they apply the label to.
Not a fan of any of this.

Biden’s Inflation Reduction Act aimed to boost renewable energy. Subsidies could help one company reap billions | PBS News https://share.google/nMz79l2fwPgRGoYJJ
Can argue about the impact of the IRA for it's main purpose but incentives to boost renewables were smart, created jobs (that Trump has now killed, literally) and helped us keep up with the rest of the developed world who is now outpacing us.
 
Not a fan of any of this.

Biden’s Inflation Reduction Act aimed to boost renewable energy. Subsidies could help one company reap billions | PBS News https://share.google/nMz79l2fwPgRGoYJJ

Trying to compare lobbying efforts for incentives or policy frameworks and the decisions over the current administrations direct equity stakes in various companies is some impressive gymnastics.

One is simply the game and how it's played, lobbying efforts have been used to shape policy decisions longer than we've all been alive. Whether it's the oil and gas industry pushing back against the Obama administration's attempts to change intangible drilling costs, or renewables lobbying to maintain ITC or investment. Different side of the same turd.

The direct investments over the past 18 months is unprecedented. Previous government interventions into private companies has always been some combination of the following, a crisis, temporary in nature, automatic exits, and and almost always no voting authority for company decisions.

The current investments have no such mechanisms prompting congressional action.

 
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