American prairie. What's the issue?

[R.K.]

#2 Yellow corn isn’t exactly the most efficient crop to plant for food production. Get rid of biofuels for starters.

If calories for human consumption is the priority of farm production then status quo is seriously out of line with that priority.

High fructose corn syrup, too.

 

[Gerald Martin]

High fructose corn syrup, too.

Nectar of life… ‘Merica

We could annex Cuba and go back to raw sugar production in the interest of National Security from a health perspective.

Hope nobody from the Trump admin reads Hunttalk. I don’t want to see this idea in next month’s news headlines after the alien/UFO files and Iran military strikes run their cycle.

 

[BuzzH]

I do not think that will pencil.

Subsidize it like we do with every other crop...it's not like we aren't already doing it.

 

[Nunjagottam]

And then we'll have a whole new campaign to "Save the Farmer" as the Ethanol, Monsanto, and Bayer lobby paint the picture of evil organic farmers threatening the "traditional" methods of that have served our nation for "over 50 years"

 

[corndog1]

How’s that for an ASSumption

Im guessing it is a very good assumption

 

[antlerradar]

I do not think that will pencil.

No, Not unless the price for grass feed beef increased even more than the already inflated value.

A neighbor of mine raises grass feed Wagyu cattle. He gets a premium price, he has to. In order to get a quality carcass he has to keep his steers a minimum of three years. A beef finished on grain is often slaughtered at a bit more than a year of age. That extra time is going to add up to a lot of feed cost. My neighbor gets by because he gets a premium price for grass feed beef, but it is a niche market and that market is close to saturated.

 

[BrentD]

Either native pasture, grazed with proper rest-rotation, or cover crop mixes that can be grazed, or cut for silage. Just something that supports more life than a sterilized patch of dirt that lays barren for 5 months a year.

There’s a solution here that keeps us fed, farmers in business, and doesn’t have all the profits to Monsanto and DuPont, all while keeping a bit more wildlife habitat.

I would argue that will not work. But I do not have the numbers and neither do you.

You cannot pass your as many cows in the black dirt desert, as you can grow with the corn and soy that you can grow there.

And if you try to put it in native pasture, that damn for sure, will not work. Native grasses suck for cattle.That is why they planted it all in brome.

If you are just trying to keep humans fed, then maybe you grow something, besides corn, but you do not grow wildlife. And I do not think america or any other country is ready for a diet of Soylet Red, Yellow, or even Green.

 

[BrentD]

#2 Yellow corn isn’t exactly the most efficient crop to plant for food production. Get rid of biofuels for starters.

What is your denominator?

If calories for human consumption is the priority of farm production then status quo is seriously out of line with that priority.

Whoever said that was supposed to be a priority and god forbid that it ever should become one. Certainly, that is not what we have been talking about here.

 

[BrentD]

Subsidize it like we do with every other crop...it's not like we aren't already doing it.

Yes we already subsidize beef production in many ways. But that is not gonna get the job done ( in this case, converting all of a row crops to wildlife paradises) by the bye, do you guys know what actually lives out there in the corn?

 

[mtmuley]

Yes we already subsidize beef production in many ways. But that is not gonna get the job done ( in this case, converting all of a row crops to wildlife paradises) by the bye, do you guys know what actually lives out there in the corn?

Not much corn grown in Montana. Especially in the country APR holds. mtmuley

 

[406dn]

Where Montana does grow irrigated corn, there are some REALLY nice bull elk. They live pretty much 24/7 in the cornfield. I don't have the connections to hunt any area like that, but I've seen several beautiful bulls, standing on the edge of the corn, just as morning was coming on. It's a fringe benefit of getting up real early on a summer morning to run a dog from horseback.

 

[BrentD]

Not much corn grown in Montana. Especially in the country APR holds. mtmuley

I know, but that's not where this particular question had gone recently. This conversation seems to have a lot of moving targets.

 

[mtmuley]

Where Montana does grow irrigated corn, there are some REALLY nice bull elk. They live pretty much 24/7 in the cornfield. I don't have the connections to hunt any area like that, but I've seen several beautiful bulls, standing on the edge of the corn, just as morning was coming on. It's a fringe benefit of getting up real early on a summer morning to run a dog from horseback.

Great. mtmuley

 

[mtmuley]

I know, but that's not where this particular question had gone recently. This conversation seems to have a lot of moving targets.

Yeah. Targets. mtmuley

 

[BrentD]

If all you want is targets, an irrigated crop fields saw your baby. I hope hunting does not devolve to that point.

 

[mtmuley]

If all you want is targets, an irrigated crop fields saw your baby. I hope hunting does not devolve to that point.

Huh? mtmuley

 

[406dn]

If all you want is targets, an irrigated crop fields saw your baby. I hope hunting does not devolve to that point.

I'll assume spell check intruded into your post.

In many areas of the country, hunting has "devolved" to this sort of hunting. I think putting trail cameras all over the place is worse than taking advantage of an agricultural crop. We all have to figure out what lines we will or won't cross.

 

[mtmuley]

I'll assume spell check intruded into your post.

In many areas of the country, hunting has "devolved" to this sort of hunting. I think putting trail cameras all over the place is worse than taking advantage of an agricultural crop. We all have to figure out what lines we will or won't cross.

This type of hunting isn't new. mtmuley

 

[BrentD]

I'll assume spell check intruded into your post.

In many areas of the country, hunting has "devolved" to this sort of hunting. I think putting trail cameras all over the place is worse than taking advantage of an agricultural crop. We all have to figure out what lines we will or won't cross.

Yep it did. It gets worse when I talk my post into my phone.