Never thought it needed more if used responsibly woth in its limits. I was a hater. Then one day at the range I shot a buddies. It was a joy to shoot. Repeatedly. I then sat with a buddy. He shot a buck with it. Handed me the gun and a couple hours later I shot one as well. At 250yds. Bang flop. Since then I have purchased several of my own and shot a bunch of deer with it. Hands down the only rifle I deer hunt with that I would put the butt on my nose and pull the trigger. Zero kick. Hand it to a kid. No problem. I am sure there is other calibers that do the same. This is just the one I discovered for myself. I will not be shooting the + peak at this point. No need