In the past your attacks on the outfitting industry are well known, and I must ask you why you have such disdain for the outfitting industry. I have seen it when you used the earlier Outfitter Maps in order to give the outfitting industry a black eye, so I think the only reason you and Joe want the Map so bad is to use it against the outfitters and to what gain?
Billy, I have stated before, I dont have a problem with the occupation of outfitting or guiding as a principle. I have had family members that hired guides to equip and get them to areas that they were not familiar with, for an opportunity to hunt in an area or a species they did not live by and did not have or make the time to explore in depth, such as another state. Nor did they own horses to get them deeper to lands not permissible by vehicles (big roadless fan). I also have friends that are wilderness outfitters and guides, who are also hunters. So I see a general principle benefit to outfitting and guiding, but like everything else you can have some bad apples.
Such as websites that I looked into this summer dealing with the elk shoulder season/objectives bs. I dont agree with outfitters that bait/lure wildlife (against the law) so lazy ass people can step out their cabin door and shoot themselves a trophy animal, calling it "hunting" (that part is a matter of personal ethics). And I have a serious problem with certain landowners or outfitters harboring wildlife to increase their fish in a barrel success rate (also advertised on some websites), affecting objectives, politicizing them, causing public land wildlife to be hammered, instead of removing those harbored wildlife from the counts. I have a serious problem with certain outfitters and guides hazing wildlife from public lands and public lands hunters, again, against the law, but hardly enforced.
So if little ole me, publicly discussing these sacred cow subjects and providing proof of the issues, to try and get our public trust wildlife to be
managed by science, instead of bs politics and greedy special interests, gives the outfitting industry a black eye, what does that say for the industry? Cause I certainly dont have
a pink radioactive stuffed bear to unleash at a "special interest greed, wildlife attacking" @#)(# fight. I am doing what I can, with the resources available, for the public trust, that is what I gain. So in the words of Mark Watney, "In the face of overwhelming odds, Im left with only one option, Im gonna have to science the shit out of this."