This past week hunting in Colorado I was amazed of the deer that was shot off the roads. Personnaly I don't agree with this type of hunting if this is what you want to call it. Also people with four wheelers back a mile off the road then when I walk out it looked like a bunch of fox hunters linned up along the road sitting in the side ditch waiting for elk or muleys to run out. Again is this hunting ? Two guys that was staying where I was said they ran across two cows dead about twenty yards apart. Throwing lead at a running bull ? Maybe I'm getting two old and I forget how to hunt ,but sitting on the road dosen't seem like hunting to me. On the flip side if you need a winters meat supply would you consider this ok. Not trying to start anything just would be interested in your opinions. Bill
Your Two Cents
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Bandit
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roadside hunting to me is nothing more than poaching. Where's the sport of it? or howabout the thrill? I don't know about those types, but I would rather work for it instead of waiting for it to run past crossing the road.
Elkhunter
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Now lets see? If I can drive my truck in a FS road and see a good place to sit and watch, how is that different than walking in and sitting at a post or in a deer stand and watching for the right animal to come along? If I can ride an ATV in to a spot, leagally, and then galss or wait for the game to come by, how is that different than walking to the same spot and sitting and glassing? If I am heading out hunting and it is leagal light, and I see a monster buck or bull, I would indeed take it if it was leagal to do. It fills the deep freeze and I fill my tag in a leagal manner.
Bandit, why is roadside hunting considered poaching? As long as i am not fireing my rifle across the road and I am in a leagal spot to shoot, why is that considered poaching? Why is it any more nonsporting than sitting in a tree stand and waiting for thenm to runn past you?
I would be more than happy to fill my tag and freezer the easy way as opposed to the hard way. On the same hand I would rather rememebr my hunt for the work and effort that I put into it.
Bandit, why is roadside hunting considered poaching? As long as i am not fireing my rifle across the road and I am in a leagal spot to shoot, why is that considered poaching? Why is it any more nonsporting than sitting in a tree stand and waiting for thenm to runn past you?
I would be more than happy to fill my tag and freezer the easy way as opposed to the hard way. On the same hand I would rather rememebr my hunt for the work and effort that I put into it.
Elkhunter
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Yep, and it was very rewarding none the less. Probably would have been better out on foot or on the horse, or even riding an ATV into the backcountry on a leagal trail and parking, but it was rewarding all the same. I have walked in and killed elk on or near the trail, I have driven in on an ATV and killed elk on or near the trail, and I have rode my horse in and have killed elk on or near the trail. I have also been in the hills and have killed elk while it was afull moon. Each & every time it has been just as rewarding. Did the elk know or care whether I was on foot, ATV or a horse? Did the elk stand there before I shot them and think about whether me shooting them was sporting? I doubt it, they could care less how I got there or what I was wearing that day.
Hunterman
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Well now,, I have a veiw of this hump
I have been know to "SPRAY" gray matter from both deer and elk(we have pics if you want them
) from both off the road, and back in the woods a few miles hump when it was leagal I have even used the truck for a rest to shoot from hump Now I'm not the type of HUNTER to say weather one type of hunting is better than another style...To me the meat taste just as good if the animal is shot miles from the nearest road,,,or right off the road..We as hunters need to stick together and congratulate each other on a job well done when we fill our tags, and are able to enjoy the fruits of our labor hump
Hunterman(Tony)
I have been know to "SPRAY" gray matter from both deer and elk(we have pics if you want them
) from both off the road, and back in the woods a few miles hump when it was leagal I have even used the truck for a rest to shoot from hump Now I'm not the type of HUNTER to say weather one type of hunting is better than another style...To me the meat taste just as good if the animal is shot miles from the nearest road,,,or right off the road..We as hunters need to stick together and congratulate each other on a job well done when we fill our tags, and are able to enjoy the fruits of our labor hump Hunterman(Tony)
Nut
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Bill was it legal for the ATV's to be there? I know in Ohio that they are not allowed on the public lands for the most part luckily.
Some people do not want to hike far. I would rather they stay close to the road and out of my way if I go in. But if they are shooting quite alot of deer maybe they are in the right spot?
Some people do not want to hike far. I would rather they stay close to the road and out of my way if I go in. But if they are shooting quite alot of deer maybe they are in the right spot?
Whiskers
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I don't like atv's so that slants my opinion. It really ticks me off to spend half the summer scouting an area on foot. Then have some nimrod come blasting thru there on his/her quad while I am hunting. Like I said before I don't live out west. Our longest walk around here is a mile, and there ain a lot of them left. We have guys that sit along the road with guns ready waiting for a deer to cross. Whats the difference between that and being a stander on a drive? I just wouldn't be very happy to have killed a deer that was running down the road. JMO.
My neighbor just took out an old man of 73 and failing health, and helped him harvest his first White tail...
I guess the old guy was shaking and sputtering getting his round off, weazed up off the road and pulled the trigger to gain some thing he would never have been able to get if not for the help of the neighbor and road hunting.
Some would say that if they can't walk out there and get their own then screw them, but this guy gave the game department $$$ paid for the gas and food to go into the hills, buy his equipment and use a good tag to put on a White tail doe in a legal manor...
I say good for him...
I just helped his son pull the last vestiges of meat from the carcus and the ol' guy is going to have sausages, roasts and steaks from his prize...
So, I would say, it is in the eye of who is pulling the trigger, as long as it is what is legal for that area, then so be it.
I really feel for you Whiskers, I try to go into areas where 4 Wheelers aren't allowed, so that I can have that experience and it really just pisses me off to come across ATV tracks.
But then again, those individuals have crossed the line and stepped into what is ilegal and now day's, morally wrong.
Bill....
You could have got your horse and road it into the yard, slippers, bath robe and all, then said you had shot it from your house... er I mean horse....
and since the game warden was standing right there condoneing it, there was no contention on the legal ramifications for right or wrong... I say, job well done...
I guess the old guy was shaking and sputtering getting his round off, weazed up off the road and pulled the trigger to gain some thing he would never have been able to get if not for the help of the neighbor and road hunting.
Some would say that if they can't walk out there and get their own then screw them, but this guy gave the game department $$$ paid for the gas and food to go into the hills, buy his equipment and use a good tag to put on a White tail doe in a legal manor...
I say good for him...
I just helped his son pull the last vestiges of meat from the carcus and the ol' guy is going to have sausages, roasts and steaks from his prize...
So, I would say, it is in the eye of who is pulling the trigger, as long as it is what is legal for that area, then so be it.
I really feel for you Whiskers, I try to go into areas where 4 Wheelers aren't allowed, so that I can have that experience and it really just pisses me off to come across ATV tracks.
But then again, those individuals have crossed the line and stepped into what is ilegal and now day's, morally wrong.
Bill....
You could have got your horse and road it into the yard, slippers, bath robe and all, then said you had shot it from your house... er I mean horse....
and since the game warden was standing right there condoneing it, there was no contention on the legal ramifications for right or wrong... I say, job well done...
the nikster
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Obviously this could be a devisive issue.
I've got a nickels worth..
I think handicapped, old or infirm should get out and pursue game in any legal manner-I don't actually agree with every legal means, but they are legal.
I think that if you are moving to a new area or just arriving on a hunt and luck into an animal, you should harvest it and count your blessings.
I think if you are able to walk and hunt as an outdoorsman(woman) and hunter, you should do so. If you choose to ride the roads in a car or truck or ATV as your chosen method(despite your abilities), you are a fat-assed slob and you can consider yourself uninvited to my camp.(which cannot be reached on tires!)
I don't mean to offend. If you are too lazy to get off the couch and change the channel-you are lazy.If you are too lazy to take out the trash-you are lazy. If you CHOOSE to hunt the roads-you are lazy.
eat me up!!
I've got a nickels worth..
I think handicapped, old or infirm should get out and pursue game in any legal manner-I don't actually agree with every legal means, but they are legal.
I think that if you are moving to a new area or just arriving on a hunt and luck into an animal, you should harvest it and count your blessings.
I think if you are able to walk and hunt as an outdoorsman(woman) and hunter, you should do so. If you choose to ride the roads in a car or truck or ATV as your chosen method(despite your abilities), you are a fat-assed slob and you can consider yourself uninvited to my camp.(which cannot be reached on tires!)
I don't mean to offend. If you are too lazy to get off the couch and change the channel-you are lazy.If you are too lazy to take out the trash-you are lazy. If you CHOOSE to hunt the roads-you are lazy.
eat me up!!
Elkhunter
New member
I am able to walk and hike and choose to lazy and that is why I bought a horse, so would not have to hike in or out anymore. I also use a remote on the TV rather than get off my lazy ass to change the channel. I know a lot of places where the elk migrate through and cross some roads. I guess I am lazy, because I rode my horse for 2 miles and sat at these crossings. BTW, this road was closed by a mud slide back in 1995, but has been used enough by ATVs, mountain bikes, horses and hikers, that it is passable to all except with a car or truck. How is sitting on this road any different than sitting on a ridge that you know they also cross? A ridge that an old road goes to also, or sitting in a meadow that the trail goes through? Maybe in some circumstances it is not being lazy, but perhaps being a little smarter. Just like in the work force, you can work harder or you can work smarter, the results will be the same.
Fred as far as I know theres know ATV trails in this area but in all honesty Ive never been on the west side of this string of timber. But I know theres know access on the north end and its miles if you go south.But any how I don't see anything wrong taking a older person or handy-cap or what ever and hunting off the road but right now in my life its not for me. Still it made a interesting topic and to see the different views. Bill
Calif. Hunter
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I just came back from my first trip to Colorado to hunt. I can agree with Bill ( at least I think I agree with what he is almost saying) that there is too much acces in some parts of the forest. Guys running elk and deer back and forth from one little patch of cover to the next. One guy got off his ATV, poured himself a cup of cocoa and turned around to see two bulls running towards him, looking over their shoulders. He grabbed his gun, jacked a shell in and shot the bigger of the two bulls - a 5x5. Yeah, it's the same result as a drive on foot and he was the blocker or shooter on stand. It just doesn't seem the same when the chasing is being done on a machine that can go as fast or faster than the quarry run. Do very many guys chase animals on horseback, or just use the horses to get somewhere?
In any case, there are wilderness areas available, and that is where we ended up hunting. No motorized transporataion there at all. I got skunked on my hunt, but it was my choice not to shoot dinks.
In any case, there are wilderness areas available, and that is where we ended up hunting. No motorized transporataion there at all. I got skunked on my hunt, but it was my choice not to shoot dinks.
Nut
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Bill, I am not much for hunting near a road. But you should have seen the monster I saw in the field on my drive back home from my evenings hunt. It is within 700 yards of where the boys shot their 5 point today.
It is within 700 yards of where the boys shot their 5 point today.
the nikster
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Wow, I'll tell you what, riding a horse is not LAZY. I road a horse in my unit 3 years ago. I got off exhausted, beaten, bruised and more sore than any other hunt I have been on. Maybe ATV's are similar.
As time goes by our society changes and our views change with it.
30 years ago a youth would never have knocked out an unsuspecting adult, and urinated on the prone hapless person-now they film it for their friends to see.
30 years ago MOST of us took pride in hunting hard one on one. Success was not measured in inches all the time(although sometimes it was). Now we(including myself) sometimes measure success by how easy the hunt was.
Not by whether or not we outsmarted a survival specialist but by whether or not a heavily pressured animal with no other options stood flat footed in front of us.
I intend to offend no-one. Legal or not is not the issue. Ethics is the issue.
If you are alright with it, I'm alright with it-as long as it's legal.
As time goes by our society changes and our views change with it.
30 years ago a youth would never have knocked out an unsuspecting adult, and urinated on the prone hapless person-now they film it for their friends to see.
30 years ago MOST of us took pride in hunting hard one on one. Success was not measured in inches all the time(although sometimes it was). Now we(including myself) sometimes measure success by how easy the hunt was.
Not by whether or not we outsmarted a survival specialist but by whether or not a heavily pressured animal with no other options stood flat footed in front of us.
I intend to offend no-one. Legal or not is not the issue. Ethics is the issue.
If you are alright with it, I'm alright with it-as long as it's legal.
why go to an area where it looks like a pumpkin patch and then complain about being surrounded by pumpkins?....kinda like going to McDonalds and saying the food sucks....a big mac and a fish filet is not the same as a surf and turf.
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