Wolves Have Been Released

[TOGIE]

Your point and my point are the same. Nobody cares enough on “our side” to foot the bill.

so then we must stoop.

if you can't convince em to care, you gotta trick em to care.

NRA is wildly effective and i would argue it's because they use the same tactics as the HSUS.

i just honestly don't know. we have tons of groups that get fractured levesl of funding across the US and all with varied different mission - whether it's specific species or specific habitat or whatever. we need some big powerhouse national organizations that can throw very serious weight. BHA and RMEF seem like the only ones that come close, but i bet their budgets are pathetic compared to the HSUS

 

[BigHornRam]

Look at the bright side @Oak . Wolves don't seem to like bighorn sheep meat for some reason.

 

[Oak]

Look at the bright side @Oak . Wolves don't seem to like bighorn sheep meat for some reason.

Do mountain lions?

 

[BigHornRam]

Do mountain lions?

Certain ones do.

 

[Oak]

Certain ones do.

I’m just trying to focus all of the hollering. More than likely I just killed the thread, though.

 

[BigHornRam]

I’m just trying to focus all of the hollering. More than likely I just killed the thread, though.

Hollering is good for stress reduction once in a while. Give it a try!

 

[Deleted member 52098]

Your point and my point are the same. Nobody cares enough on “our side” to foot the bill.

That and we can’t stop arguing amongst ourselves to have a unified message. We could all be doing a lot better at messaging, PR and general marketing.

 

[BigHornRam]

That and we can’t stop arguing amongst ourselves to have a unified message. We could all be doing a lot better at messaging, PR and general marketing.

Any one want to buy a "Right in the Fuggin Head" t shirt?

 

[hank4elk]

Well there will be a problem when they head south.
They eat Mexican gray wolves.

Only seen a handful of the so called Mexican variety and I'm near the base.
I did see a pack eat an elk calf.
Nature is rough at times.

Maybe they can eat the loose packs of dogs in NM too?

 

[Nick87]

Any one want to buy a "Right in the Fuggin Head" t shirt?

I mean....yah.

 

[Oak]

so then we must stoop.

if you can't convince em to care, you gotta trick em to care.

NRA is wildly effective and i would argue it's because they use the same tactics as the HSUS.

i just honestly don't know. we have tons of groups that get fractured levesl of funding across the US and all with varied different mission - whether it's specific species or specific habitat or whatever. we need some big powerhouse national organizations that can throw very serious weight. BHA and RMEF seem like the only ones that come close, but i bet their budgets are pathetic compared to the HSUS

Organizations with 501(c)(3) status are limited in what they can do due to lobbying restrictions.

 

[BigHornRam]

I mean....yah.

$25. $100 for the uncle Ted autographed tee.

 

[elkduds]

Personally I'm fine with the voters deciding. Agreed they don't have to interact with them if they don't want to, but it's not my place to decide who vote on an issue like this, ya know?

Like I don't go to school or interact with the school, but if I have the chance to vote on school expansion I will. Just cause I won't use it doesn't mean I don't get a say

The voters of CO were pushed by the Gov's husband who is in bed w Humane Society ($$) and other national anti-hunting groups to override the professional position of state wildlife agency CPW's biologists and staff, who formally opposed wolf reintroduction 2x in the years before the ballot measure. Scientists said reintroduced wolves are not a good addition to CO's ecosystem, noting that wolves were migrating into CO on their own. In this instance, emotional appeals fueled by out-of-state deep pockets to override science and the decision of our state agency created to and charged with managing wildlife. That does not bode well for the future of evidence-based wildlife management in CO and elsewhere.

 

[TOGIE]

Organizations with 501(c)(3) status are limited in what they can do due to lobbying restrictions.

are they limited in giving money to lobbyists?

 

[Deleted member 52098]

are they limited in giving money to lobbyists?

Yes; there are reporting requirements, percentage of revenue issues, etc.

 

[sneakem]

There are only forum/app posts with secondhand information. There will not be an official statement from the agency beyond 'Grand County'. Someone will almost certainly match the background of the still photos/screen captures of the release site with a landscape but even that probably wont be definitive unless they left some metadata in a photo somewhere. As I said in the other thread, that location meets a lot of the criteria and very well may be accurate, but there's nothing concrete.

I’d say its pretty concrete where they were dumped…

 

[Westelker - W. Colorado]

That would be an incredibly stupid thing to do. Just you saying "If I'm in country, I'll shoot cause I'm thinking it's coming to eat me." tells me you should take a good hard look in the mirror.

No comment, other than if a wolf was charging you, what the hell would you do... stand there like fool and let him attack you?? Guess you'd do the same with a grizzly!!!

 

[Westelker - W. Colorado]

That's the bigger story.

That's exactly correct, front range ballet biology!!

 

[Westelker - W. Colorado]

I don't hunt where there are grizzlies or wolves (yet).

My biggest problem with wolves being released is the fact now i have to listen to more crap hunters blame them as reason they didn't kill a elk this year!

 

[Westelker - W. Colorado]

That's the bigger story.

That's exactly correct, front range ballot biology.