Relax, Everything is Going to be Okay!

[Straight Arrow]

I'm not sure how Chuck thinks having a communist run New York City is a good thing for his brand?

Having spent a military career of over thirty years (as well as completing Army War College), thwarting the political ideology and governmental form of Communism, the relatively recent confusion about the difference between socialism and communism is somewhat amusing, as highly educated and otherwise intelligent people tend to apply the term "communist" as a derogatory reflexion on a leader who may have some positive worthwhile ideas about the application of a form of socialism.
As pointed to, there are well respected, highly functioning governments with a socialistic structure and beneficial programs.

 

[Hilljackoutlaw]

I guess the election was bound to produce snowflakes.

The right has been calling Democrats, socialists and communists for as long as I can remember. The sting is minimal, at most.

Sanders and Mamdoni identify as democratic socialists. That would be very similar to the Nordic countries. And really, with Trump's bro fest with Putin, I half expected to GOP to follow suit.

Anyway keep being snow flakes, I'm leaving to elk hunt tomorrow, and snow never hurts.

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[SaskHunter]

Having spent a military career of over thirty years (as well as completing Army War College), thwarting the political ideology and governmental form of Communism, the relatively recent confusion about the difference between socialism and communism is somewhat amusing, as highly educated and otherwise intelligent people tend to apply the term "communist" as a derogatory reflexion on a leader who may have some positive worthwhile ideas about the application of a form of socialism.
As pointed to, there are well respected, highly functioning governments with a socialistic structure and beneficial programs.

How communist of you!

A good chunk of the world seems to think that forms of socialism work, including your neighbours to the North. I promise guys, it's not that bad and having a societal contract that ensures your weak and most vulnerable are cared for, is great!

 

[Straight Arrow]

How communist of you!

Ha, ha! Yep!
I don't recall any historical references to derogatory terms applied to the VA benefits socialistic program to help Veterans returning from WWII or any conflict.
FDR continues to be revered and highly applauded for inception of the socialistic Social Security Program.

There does seem to be a growing respect for the Canadian way.

 

[rjthehunter]

How communist of you!

A good chunk of the world seems to think that forms of socialism work, including your neighbours to the North. I promise guys, it's not that bad and having a societal contract that ensures your weak and most vulnerable are cared for, is great!

 

[406dn]

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I'll do you one better, you donate, and I'll match it.

 

[El Jason]

We’re shut down over health care. I’m not an expert, and maybe Obama Care isn’t sustainable without excessive subsidies. I don’t profess to know.

What I do know is the GOP has had plenty of time to come up with and pass an alternative plan. Readily accessible preventative care for low income folks would probably save more lives than drone strikes on alleged cocaine boats and discounted obesity drugs. Of course, this is pure speculation on my part.

Time for everyone to act like adults and sit down to hammer this out.

 

[406dn]

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I have several Canadian friends from my horseback pointing dog field trial habit. None of them have ever expressed envy concerning our health care system.

My farrier injured his back this summer. He told me that he had not been to a doctor. I asked him why, and he told me that his deductible for he and his family is $14k. That is the policy that had monthly premiums they could fit into their budget. He is hoping time and informal physical therapy will get him back to normal.

Our health care delivery system is deeply flawed. My personal insurance is fantastic. Between medicare and the employer subsided policy, I have no complaints. Many others have plenty.

 

[Gulf of America]

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The only study cited without following links is a conservative think tank. I'd be a lot more interested in input on the subject from Canadians on HT. That's like using an ACLU study as your only citation on crime statistics.

 

[Irrelevant]

I'm jumping to the other ship on this topic. Get rid of the subsidies. Jack up the prices, full market rates. I'm ready for low-income America to feel the full brunt of healthcare. Or just forgo healthcare insurance entirely. But only if we also allow healthcare providers to require upfront payment. Cancer? Sorry, that'll be $150,000.

I'm going to be fine.

 

[birdseye]

As a proud conservative and long time GOP, my party has screwed the pooch with irreversible damage. Govt shutdowns cost more money in the long run than what they save and I wonder what the millions upon millions of dollars of the orange baboons gold guilded ballroom could of went towards health insurance to our low income and heck, the newest class of low income - the middle. Threatening and demeaning our dear, loyals friends North of the border...can't forget the GOP trying to steal Public lands. I sure miss the old days when I was fooled that it was the Dem's who were the tax and spenders and going to take my guns while my party was the supposed conservatives along with the blame Obama cry. So, from "Relax, Everything is Going to be OK"...NO, it's not

 

[Nameless Range]

Peter Attia had a great series of discussions on healthcare in America, and the way he described it was 3 levers: Cost, Availability, and Quality

Pull one and you likely affect the others. Healthcare is skyrocketing in price, or becoming far harder to get, across various systems in the world. It's complicated, and anyone proposing an easy fix is likely not being robust in their thought.

 

[Hilljackoutlaw]

I'll do you one better, you donate, and I'll match it.

Unfortunately I dont support the wing of the democratic party that wants to turn every town into a replica of Dearborn. So ill have to pass on donating in this instance.

 

[406dn]

The biggest single thing that would really help health care costs is if somehow Americans could be convinced to exercise and take real care of their body. Collectively, we are in horrible physical condition. A large percentage of middle aged and older adults are insulin resistant, or have type 2 diabetes. Over the span of time they have to manage the disease, it is not inexpensive.

How many joint replacement surgeries could be avoided, if obesity was not so prevalent?

My farrier's example reflects the true cost of health care insurance. He and his wife are self employed. She is a veterinarian, and he ranches, blacksmiths, and still does an amount of shoeing horses. I'd guess they make too much to get a government subsidy. They have two children. I can't remember exactly what their monthly premium is, but if I remember right it was $700ish/month.

We have so many winners and losers, when it comes to access to affordable health care. I have been a winner. When you work for the largest publicly owned oil company, the benefits are very good. I've been retired for a dozen years. Their insurance covered my wife and I until medicare took over. Then we were put on a very good supplemental plan, largely paid by the company. Anyone who is self employed or working a job that does not offer health insurance, has a much harsher situation.

It is a house of cards that will collapse at some point. I've heard that the GOP has some concepts of a plan.