Relax, Everything is Going to be Okay!

Saw this today as a way to improve the castle herd and lower beef price (an answer to buying up large amounts of Argentinian beef it would seem)

The plan said it will prioritize grazing on the estimated 24 million acres of vacant grazing allotments across the country, and USDA plans to prioritize grazing as a form of wildlife management. The Bureau of Land Management and U.S. Forest Service are also set to work with USDA to streamline permitting for ranchers to graze these lands.


The plan additionally calls for the advancement of deregulatory actions taken by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency that impact the Waters of the United States rule, wastewater discharge requirements for processing facilities and effluent limitation guidelines.


According to the plan, deregulating these reforms to the Clean Water Act will prevent $1.1 billion to $7.8 billion in future compliance costs for livestock operations and meat processors.


These deregulating actions have been opposed by environmental groups who say it will lead to contaminated water supplies.





Only see this as less than ideal. What a world we live in.

 
Saw this today as a way to improve the castle herd and lower beef price (an answer to buying up large amounts of Argentinian beef it would seem)

The plan said it will prioritize grazing on the estimated 24 million acres of vacant grazing allotments across the country, and USDA plans to prioritize grazing as a form of wildlife management. The Bureau of Land Management and U.S. Forest Service are also set to work with USDA to streamline permitting for ranchers to graze these lands.



There is probably a reason why they are vacant. Likely it was cost prohibitive to put cattle on them. Maybe at today's high cattle prices you could turn a profit, But you would be taking on a lot of risk to buy cows at today's prices to put on a grazing lease that will not pay your expenses when the price of cows inevitably drops. I would expect the vast majority of these leases to remain vacant.
 
There is probably a reason why they are vacant. Likely it was cost prohibitive to put cattle on them. Maybe at today's high cattle prices you could turn a profit, But you would be taking on a lot of risk to buy cows at today's prices to put on a grazing lease that will not make pay your expenses when the price of cows inevitably drops. I would expect the vast majority of these leases to remain vacant.
I watched a small group of angus come to water while elk hunting. My quick calculation was $50k+ of cattle.
 
There is probably a reason why they are vacant. Likely it was cost prohibitive to put cattle on them. Maybe at today's high cattle prices you could turn a profit, But you would be taking on a lot of risk to buy cows at today's prices to put on a grazing lease that will not pay your expenses when the price of cows inevitably drops. I would expect the vast majority of these leases to remain vacant.
Agree, everyone around here gets all up in arms because certain areas go up for oil and gas leasing every year.

But there's no oil and gas, or its prohibitively expensive.

I do not think we should blindly de regulate everything, but the reality is a lot of stuff is just not financially feasible, regardless of the regulation opening it up.
 
Agree, everyone around here gets all up in arms because certain areas go up for oil and gas leasing every year.

But there's no oil and gas, or its prohibitively expensive.

I do not think we should blindly de regulate everything, but the reality is a lot of stuff is just not financially feasible, regardless of the regulation opening it up.
I'm much more concerned about allowing effluent into streams than I am about the additional grazing.
 
There is probably a reason why they are vacant. Likely it was cost prohibitive to put cattle on them. Maybe at today's high cattle prices you could turn a profit, But you would be taking on a lot of risk to buy cows at today's prices to put on a grazing lease that will not pay your expenses when the price of cows inevitably drops. I would expect the vast majority of these leases to remain vacant.
It's virtue signally. You have to pay your supporters when you blatantly support another country in direct competition with them. Those leases could be (and might eventually be) free and ranchers might not take it. Regardless, it will take years to build herd size back up.

Reducing discharge requirements goes straight to processor's bottom line through reduced cost of monitoring. I just wouldn't want to be downstream of the plant in 12 months.
 
Agree, everyone around here gets all up in arms because certain areas go up for oil and gas leasing every year.

But there's no oil and gas, or its prohibitively expensive.

I do not think we should blindly de regulate everything, but the reality is a lot of stuff is just not financially feasible, regardless of the regulation opening it up.
Case in point.
 
Is anyone here actually relaxing?

But at least we'll have a nice national ballroom.

This has now been the longest government shutdown that I can remember (ever?)- I think a better question might be has anyone actually noticed much of a difference?

I would be interested to hear of Hunt Talker’s observations and experiences during the past few months.
 
This has now been the longest government shutdown that I can remember (ever?)- I think a better question might be has anyone actually noticed much of a difference?

I would be interested to hear of Hunt Talker’s observations and experiences during the past few months.
My wife has been planning on retiring at the end of the month for about six months now. At least now they have an excuse for not getting the paperwork done yet.😉😁
 
I think a better question might be has anyone actually noticed much of a difference?
I've noticed that the post fire aerial herbicide treatments on BLM haven't happened here in Washington due to the shutdown, and the effects will be even more noticeable next June as the cheatgrass and mustard cures out, the return fire risk increases, and the cost to treat increases due to failure to implement initial treatments in a timely manner. No biggie though, it's just critical winter range for mule deer.
 
I think a better question might be has anyone actually noticed much of a difference?
The longer it goes, the more impact it has. Farmers will be needing loans for funding next year's planting (I just assume the people that run that program will be brought back, red states and such). The SBA loan program isn't functioning, so those businesses are trying to stay afloat other ways. Stop paying air traffic controllers and we will see social media explode on people impacted by flight delays.
 
This has now been the longest government shutdown that I can remember (ever?)- I think a better question might be has anyone actually noticed much of a difference?

I would be interested to hear of Hunt Talker’s observations and experiences during the past few months.
My son was stuck at Fort Bragg coming off a deployment. The group couldn’t get plane tickets bought. There was a mirage of reasons they couldn’t buy the tickets themselves. Finally, the Fed Army division my son (Nat Guard) was attached too used last years approval numbers to buy the tickets and activate the release of the unit. A bunch of games that cost the government more money by extending the active duty service of the guard unit and suspect behavior to still spend the money on the jet tickets.
 
I have plenty of government accounts that obviously aren't buying anything currently, luckily people are spending money so its being made up in the private sector. According to Katherine Clark the dems need to get some leverage somehow, hopefully their leverage tank fills up soon so this can end sooner than later.
 

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