Possession Limit Alaska

[hunthayden]

Going to Alaska soon, looking for some help on the definition of possession limit.

From Statewide Regs

possession limit means the maximum number of unpreserved fish a person may have in possession.

preserved fish means fish prepared in such a manner, and in an existing state of preservation, as to be fit for human consumption after a 15-day period, and does not include unfrozen fish temporarily stored in coolers that contain ice, dry ice, or fish that are lightly salted

So if I have I have six salmon (possession limit) and the fish has been dropped at a fish to process and freeze does that mean the fish are preserved and no longer count towards possession.

Thanks for the help

 

[RyGuy]

Yes. They no longer count towards your limit.
I am no expert, but that is the way I read the regulations.

 

[Salmonchaser]

However the daily limit still applies even if they are processed. Kings are an annual limit, processed or not. Sockeye, silvers and pinks in most areas you just keep them processed, read vacuum sealed and frozen. Figure 3 to 4 limits on Sockeye fillets will give you a fifty pound fish box. 3 limits of silvers will get you there as well.
Good luck have fun.

 

[Bambistew]

The Alaska rape and pillage clause. Daily limit or annual limit is all you really need to know if you freeze/preserve. I wish it was actual possession limited. So many people come up and go home with 100s of pounds of fish. It's gluttony, no way they eat it all. I eat a ton of fish, a ton. I eat salmon 3x a week and halibut 1-2 and do not eat half of what I see people hauling home. Same goes for residents. So much gets tossed in the trash. Take what you need not what you can.

If you're going halibut fishing there is an annual limit on charters, and they check records at the end of the season. I know a number of people that have been pinched.

 

[BrentD]

The Alaska rape and pillage clause. Daily limit or annual limit is all you really need to know if you freeze/preserve. I wish it was actual possession limited. So many people come up and go home with 100s of pounds of fish. It's gluttony, no way they eat it all. I eat a ton of fish, a ton. I eat salmon 3x a week and halibut 1-2 and do not eat half of what I see people hauling home. Same goes for residents. So much gets tossed in the trash. Take what you need not what you can.

If you're going halibut fishing there is an annual limit on charters, and they check records at the end of the season. I know a number of people that have been pinched.

Many people here shoot multiple big game per year, which is way more than a couple boxes of fish. While I tend to agree with you, I think traveling to Alaska for 10 black rockfish is probably not that attractive.

 

[Bambistew]

Many people here shoot multiple big game per year, which is way more than a couple boxes of fish. While I tend to agree with you, I think traveling to Alaska for 10 black rockfish is probably not that attractive.

Those same people dont eat all they shoot either. Ive said it many times about the gluttony of big game hunting. The excuse of donating meat and being some sort of hero is laughable. The people who complain about not getting tags can't seem to put 2 and 2 together. No one is eating a couple elk a handful of deer and and antelope every year. They kill just to kill. Yes there are dozens of people on here who fit that bill. One day maybe they will wake up and realize they're not some conservation hero. You know what really conserves animals? Not fn killing them if you don't need them!

 

[BuzzH]

The Alaska rape and pillage clause. Daily limit or annual limit is all you really need to know if you freeze/preserve. I wish it was actual possession limited. So many people come up and go home with 100s of pounds of fish. It's gluttony, no way they eat it all. I eat a ton of fish, a ton. I eat salmon 3x a week and halibut 1-2 and do not eat half of what I see people hauling home. Same goes for residents. So much gets tossed in the trash. Take what you need not what you can.

If you're going halibut fishing there is an annual limit on charters, and they check records at the end of the season. I know a number of people that have been pinched.

Yet, commercial by-catch is tossed in the ocean by the tons...yeah, lets get down on the sport fishermen. That's not including what is taken for the market.

Last I looked, sport fishing accounted for around 10% of the halibut taken each year in AK. I've watched my limits as a sport fisherman get reduced for nearly all species. Halibut used to be 2 any size, now its one under and one over a day. Black rockfish from no limit, to 10 to 5 and now 3. Salmon has stayed pretty similar in the salt. Commercial fishermen are limited by TONS of halibut, TONS of black rock fish, and I'm supposed to feel guilty killing some fish? Of course the crucifiers are a great deal for the halibut the commercial long liners use, too lazy to unhook an undersized fish by hand, so tear half its face off "releasing" it.

It's ridiculous to blame sport fishermen for being gluttons when you see the coast guard have to escort salmon boats to tenders because they have zero free-board they have so many pounds of fish.

I have no moral issue bringing 100-150 pounds of sport caught fish back to Laramie each year, absolutely none.

I do spread it around some, share a bit with my neighbors and friends, but by August each year, its gone.

 

[Dave N]

Hell, I'd like just to get back up there and get SOME to bring home!

 

[BuzzH]

Commercial and subsistence harvesters speak out against trawler bycatch of chinook salmon

Federal fisheries data shows trawlers in the North Pacific took about a tenth of the king salmon caught by Alaska’s commercial salmon fleet last year.

www.ktoo.org

Allowable by-catch:

• King salmon: 45,700 fish (there is no hard cap for chums or other salmon)
• Halibut: 5.48 million pounds (for the Gulf of Alaska: 3.76 million pounds)
• Herring: 6 million pounds
• Snow Crab (opilio): 5.99 million individuals (equal to 7.8 million pounds; the catch for crabbers is 5.6 million pounds)
• Tanner Crab (bairdi): 3.07 million individuals (6,140,000 pounds; crabbers can take 1 million pounds)
• Red King Crab: 80,160 individuals (520,000 pounds; the fishery is closed to crabbers for the first time in 25 years)
• There is no bycatch cap for sablefish (blackcod) in the Bering Sea or gulf. The gulf also does not have any bycatch caps for any species of crab.

And I'm supposed to feel bad about killing some fish?

Absolutely not one bit of remorse...

 

[Bambistew]

Yet, commercial by-catch is tossed in the ocean by the tons...yeah, lets get down on the sport fishermen. That's not including what is taken for the market.

Last I looked, sport fishing accounted for around 10% of the halibut taken each year in AK. I've watched my limits as a sport fisherman get reduced for nearly all species. Halibut used to be 2 any size, now its one under and one over a day. Black rockfish from no limit, to 10 to 5 and now 3. Salmon has stayed pretty similar in the salt. Commercial fishermen are limited by TONS of halibut, TONS of black rock fish, and I'm supposed to feel guilty killing some fish? Of course the crucifiers are a great deal for the halibut the commercial long liners use, too lazy to unhook an undersized fish by hand, so tear half its face off "releasing" it.

It's ridiculous to blame sport fishermen for being gluttons when you see the coast guard have to escort salmon boats to tenders because they have zero free-board they have so many pounds of fish.

I have no moral issue bringing 100-150 pounds of sport caught fish back to Laramie each year, absolutely none.

I do spread it around some, share a bit with my neighbors and friends, but by August each year, its gone.

So you're ok with a race to the bottom? They get theirs, I deserve mine and if i dont take it somone else will? Commercial fishing isn't sustainable, you'd think we would have leaned that by now, but we need to rape and destroy Alaska too, maybe we'll figure it out this time? The feds control the halibut Alaska is just a colony of the Lessor 48, or mostly Washington when it comes to seafood.

You and your wife eat 150lbs of Alaska fish a year along with half a dozen or more big game animals + other fish and game? I

 

[BrentD]

Those same people dont eat all they shoot either. Ive said it many times about the gluttony of big game hunting. The excuse of donating meat and being some sort of hero is laughable. The people who complain about not getting tags can't seem to put 2 and 2 together. No one is eating a couple elk a handful of deer and and antelope every year. They kill just to kill. Yes there are dozens of people on here who fit that bill. One day maybe they will wake up and realize they're not some conservation hero. You know what really conserves animals? Not fn killing them if you don't need them!

Yup, that about says it all. I really cannot improve on that. Probably also the #1 cause of point creep too, or close to it.

 

[BuzzH]

So you're ok with a race to the bottom? They get theirs, I deserve mine and if i dont take it somone else will? Commercial fishing isn't sustainable, you'd think we would have leaned that by now, but we need to rape and destroy Alaska too, maybe we'll figure it out this time? The feds control the halibut Alaska is just a colony of the Lessor 48, or mostly Washington when it comes to seafood.

You and your wife eat 150lbs of Alaska fish a year along with half a dozen or more big game animals + other fish and game? I

Charter sport fishermen catch 2-3 million tons of halibut a year less than half of the by-catch alone.

It wouldn't be a race to the bottom if commercial fishing was limited more...26 million tons of halibut taken by commercial fishing each year...not to mention the 5-6 million tons of by catch.

I think I know who's killing the most fish...and what the problem is.

I think you should re-read my post too, I give some fish to my neighbors, family, and friends, and I don't need to justify it.

And while on the subject of elk, there's talk of aerial gunning elk in Wyoming right now because a lot of hunters are too damn stupid and/or lazy to get them killed. Issuing more and more tags isn't working.

Would you rather the GF mow them down from the air and leave them to rot, or have a hunter kill them and give the meat to others?

 

[Johnny Bravo]

So you're ok with a race to the bottom? They get theirs, I deserve mine and if i dont take it somone else will? Commercial fishing isn't sustainable, you'd think we would have leaned that by now, but we need to rape and destroy Alaska too, maybe we'll figure it out this time? The feds control the halibut Alaska is just a colony of the Lessor 48, or mostly Washington when it comes to seafood.

You and your wife eat 150lbs of Alaska fish a year along with half a dozen or more big game animals + other fish and game? I

Do the math and think about it that way as it's more precise.

2 people eat at home for every meal for 360 days a year....they each eat 1 pound of protein per day spread over 3 meals so that is 360 pounds per person per year and that comes to 720 pounds of protein.

Same scenario but lets say it's just 1 meal a day and 1/2 pound of protein per person, so 1 pound per day for both of them, so 360 pounds per year.....

Let's say it's only 250 meals per year, at 1 pound per meal that is still 250 pounds to 500 pounds for 2 people. (maybe they are big eaters)

So it's between 250 pounds and 720 pounds of protein for 2 people per year so IMO, per the math, yes, they could eat most of what they kill.

Is my math wrong?

 

[BuzzH]

I feel guilty now...

Just kidding, no I don't...stay tuned more pictures in August.

 

[Dave N]

Need help, Buzz?

 

[BuzzH]

Need help, Buzz?

Well, I'd probably give you some fish, but then I'd be a greedy bastard for doing so...

 

[Dave N]

Well, I'd probably give you some fish, but then I'd be a greedy bastard for doing so...

No worries. I would have hogged a box for myself and enjoyed the scenery again.

 

[Johnny Bravo]

I feel guilty now...

Just kidding, no I don't...stay tuned more pictures in August.

How much does it cost you to get that all home?

 

[Don Fischer]

Many people here shoot multiple big game per year, which is way more than a couple boxes of fish. While I tend to agree with you, I think traveling to Alaska for 10 black rockfish is probably not that attractive.

10 Black Rock fish not attractive? People do not go to Alaska to subsistance hunt and fish! Non resident's hunting and fishing in Alaska do it for the sport. Pure sport hunting and fishing.

 

[Don Fischer]

Yet, commercial by-catch is tossed in the ocean by the tons...yeah, lets get down on the sport fishermen. That's not including what is taken for the market.

Last I looked, sport fishing accounted for around 10% of the halibut taken each year in AK. I've watched my limits as a sport fisherman get reduced for nearly all species. Halibut used to be 2 any size, now its one under and one over a day. Black rockfish from no limit, to 10 to 5 and now 3. Salmon has stayed pretty similar in the salt. Commercial fishermen are limited by TONS of halibut, TONS of black rock fish, and I'm supposed to feel guilty killing some fish? Of course the crucifiers are a great deal for the halibut the commercial long liners use, too lazy to unhook an undersized fish by hand, so tear half its face off "releasing" it.

It's ridiculous to blame sport fishermen for being gluttons when you see the coast guard have to escort salmon boats to tenders because they have zero free-board they have so many pounds of fish.

I have no moral issue bringing 100-150 pounds of sport caught fish back to Laramie each year, absolutely none.

I do spread it around some, share a bit with my neighbors and friends, but by August each year, its gone.

Have ya ever figured out what that cost's by the pound? Have a brother used to go up every year for Halibut. Travel was expensive for then, cheap for now! Stayed at a lodge for a week and out on a boat every day. Fish were all cleaned and packed for him. Other than travet, didn't cost him a dime. Lodge owner was a client of his!