OnX Hunt Research Tools

[SAJ-99]

I was thumbing through some nm odds. They are off. Enough for me to know just by looking that it's not right from memory.

It is hard to figure out the NM odds from the NMGF spreadsheet because some people draw on 1st choice, some on 2nd, and some on 3rd, so you have to do calculations to determine the single number. It also makes the odds from YTY jump around. I checked what I thought was your tag and it looks like their math was right. The phrase 'Close enough for government work!' should apply.

 

[Nick87]

It is hard to figure out the NM odds from the NMGF spreadsheet because some people draw on 1st choice, some on 2nd, and some on 3rd, so you have to do calculations to determine the single number. It also makes the odds from YTY jump around. I checked what I thought was your tag and it looks like their math was right. The phrase 'Close enough for government work!' should apply.

I can't remember what units it was for. Not the one I drew iirc it may have been for archery deer. Either way I double checked them and it was off. Could've been the season dates. I just remember they had some numbers way off.

 

[88man]

The old top rut was great. Onx really needs to get on this project asap as the new draw odds tool as it is currently is not a good tool at all. It really hurts their brand that its not ready when top rut was great.

 

[Nick87]

Anyone here have a personal comparison for onx vs gohunts mapping? I could be persuaded.

 

[FranklinME]

I was wondering the same thing, if anyone could give a comparison.

On the other hand OnX says I'm a shoe in for the AZ elk tag I thought I was 6-7 years away from.

 

[SAJ-99]

Anyone here have a personal comparison for onx vs gohunts mapping? I could be persuaded.

I used Gohunt and OnX maps both for a couple of years. I dropped Gohunt last year. The user interface on maps isn't as smooth and the odds are largely available from the agencies, so I had to choose one. Part (or most) of it could be that I had OnX for so long and just got used to the app. I know some people had issues with maps downloading on the phone.

 

[typhoon916]

OnX bought Toprut from Steve Cordle, a cpl years ago, and HuntinFool used Toprut thru the Onx Elite benefits program. Last year Onx developed their Research Tools as a replacement for Toprut temporarily leaving both options available. Last month they turned off Toprut, leaving their research Tools as the direct replacement. Huntinfool is now using the Onx Research Tools, still thru the Benefits program.

As for those Research Tools, they're shiit. I called and bitched the first morning and suggest all you do the same.
406-540-1600

Copy that .. Would go hunt be my best bet for draw odds then ,?

 

[eshunt]

Holy crap, what a junk show of a way to try and portray odds. I've been a GoHunt for odds person and OnX for maps person. This research tool is pathetic. When you go into certain state/units there is no information regarding which subunit is is for. And the actual draw odds do not correspond to the state published data at all. They show me at almost 100% draw odds when I look at the state published data I have about 7 years until I'm at 100% draw odds. Definitely will not be using this "research" tool for anything.

 

[WapitiBob]

Gohunt has AZ and WY odds updated and they look pretty good from the comparisons I've done. Not a fan of Gohunt mapping.

 

[NoWiser]

I just tried to log in to Toprut and was completely surprised to see I have to use the OnX version. Simply garbage. I can’t even believe what a downgrade it is. They should be embarrassed. All I want is a table showing draw odds and the ability to see the number of applicants in point pools. Nothing else.

 

[Nick87]

I can't remember what units it was for. Not the one I drew iirc it may have been for archery deer. Either way I double checked them and it was off. Could've been the season dates. I just remember they had some numbers way off.

You can pull up multiple units in NM right now and it won't gibe you anything for rifle. Try 16a for example. It's as if there is no rifle season according to onx. Even after clearing all filters, multiple times?

 

[Nick87]

As for those Research Tools, they're shiit. I called and bitched the first morning and suggest all you do the same.
406-540-160

Phones are off this morning for team training...probably going over how to handle all the disgruntled customers.

 

[SAJ-99]

You can pull up multiple units in NM right now and it won't gibe you anything for rifle. Try 16a for example. It's as if there is no rifle season according to onx. Even after clearing all filters, multiple times?

Works for me. wonder if it is a cookies problem? I have had that a little when have filters on and then try to clear them.

 

[Nick87]

Works for me. Under if it is a cookies problem? I have had that a little when have filters on and then try to clear them.

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Unreal. Glad it's working for someone I guess. I'll see if I can try to it on desktop later.

 

[mmazour]

Miss toprut....so much better than what is there now....

 

[SAJ-99]

Miss toprut....so much better than what is there now....

I tried to use Toprut in 2024 and a lot of the numbers were never updated from 2022. I also found it a bit clunky. I think there is some familiarity that makes people comfortable. I like GoHunt (and miss it since dropping the subscription), but not for the odds. I liked the brief unit descriptions, which were useful in giving some info on places I wasn't familiar with. The new OnX Tool certainly needs some improvement, but that is not a surprise. If I don't want to pay more, I either deal with the bugs in draw odds or bugs in mapping.

Lots of anger on this. Partly I don't understand what people do with the odds. I choose a unit first. The odds are what they are, and last years odds might not be the same as this years. The odds give me general idea of demand, but I am under no illusion of precision.

 

[BuckRut]

If 4 or more people are wanting to switch to GoHunt I could be talked into reactivating my account to get you the $75 gear credit. LOL

 

[Nick87]

Works for me. wonder if it is a cookies problem? I have had that a little when have filters on and then try to clear them.

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Tried it on desktop this morning. Works as it should, at least for that unit and some others. Still a problem I never had with gohunt.

 

[SAJ-99]

Tried it on desktop this morning. Works as it should, at least for that unit and some others. Still a problem I never had with gohunt.

I don’t think I ever used GoHUNT on my phone, other than the maps.

 

[Nick87]

I did quite a bit.