Nov 3 - Independents’ Day?

[WanderWoman]

This is interesting to see; hoping I have a chance to give it a listen.

 

[Sytes]

I obviously have no skin in this game, but I'm hopeful for Montana because chamge has to start somewhere. 85% of the time @Straight Arrow or @406dn Are pretty far apart politically and we still equally support this candidate is telling how shitty are choices have been with a two party system.

I feel we all have skin in this game. The position is for US Senate, representing Montana primarily with the key pivotal opportunity many *should catch onto regarding reshaping US politics. It holds the potential to change the dynamics of our boss party garbage, as Theodore Roosevelt stumped for his Bull Moose Party.

The same as people here who complain(ed) about Mike Lee (Public land) or Dianne Feinstein (2A). They hold/held the power within their red / blue caucus. We gain just a few true Independents, the Red and Blue have to adapt to gain passage of US shaping laws.

That is skin in the US game.

 

[elkduds]

Devil's advocacy: We've seen the disproportionate power in the Senate before. Independents have recognized their tiebreaking power and abused the process to benefit themselves and/or their donors, constituents.


If there were 2 or more of them, they could do so together. 47 is not the first or last Master of the Deal inside the Beltway. Regular Capitol chess becomes 3-D chess. If this sounds like cynicism,

 

[406dn]

Devil's advocacy: We've seen the disproportionate power in the Senate before. Independents have recognized their tiebreaking power and abused the process to benefit themselves and/or their donors, constituents.
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If there were 2 or more of them, they could do so together. 47 is not the first or last Master of the Deal inside the Beltway. Regular Capitol chess becomes 3-D chess. If this sounds like cynicism,
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This, it really...depends. We all view politicians with a jaundiced eye. We all would like to have a politician motivated by a real duty to public service.

I think there are some, not confined to only one party. Unfortunately, a declaration of not belonging to a party, it is not a guarantee of, well, anything.

Any power they might have depends on how evenly split the Congress is. If there is a sizable majority for either party, their power disappears. In the Senate, they retain small level. In the House, they would be irrelevant.